@Binkle @becassine
I honestly think with the modern techniques (that people don't understand) that more chilled sleeping people are at least better (in comparison) to other people that FUCK THINGS UP FAST :)
Not looking at anyone but by design doing stuff is now out of realm of useful and 'max' mentality truly done well to fuck or maximised things. At least sleepers don't do 100 things bad

Many other things but that's the short of it.