I think it's often a mistake to comment on some of these terms deep enough (whatever the context is in your discussion). and that you and I or even for others to comment on is a mistake without considering this, so we could all more safely ask and explore rather than assume absolutes in opinions. AND THEN then realise if someone really has a deeper understanding, to go deeper when that is more safely understood.
A bit of speculation is ok but not to assume anywhere near all-in on first comments.
WHY THIS POST?
I say this because often everyone is so average or below some level that it really make sense to ask and explore, going for incrementing your own view or building blocks rather than trying to match it with somebody else's.
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Perhaps I could say a few others ways- 2 more below (let me know which of these 3 ways you prefer)
Keep to your own 1st hand experiences and increment your own building blocks rather than expect others to confirm and do it at the same time.
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First things first with the asking and exploring, taking away what you can, and then partying with those like-minded.