Do we want more people here on Mastodon all together cluttering things when there is no progression path or training for them?
Possibly no from me (but the question is more detailed then that so read on before anything)
So while I don't mind new users at all, the dynamic game is also about existing people; the already wise and clever but still perhaps not quite there themselves... and if they just treat this as a clever side things using less-corporate mediums then it's still not really enough of a change in my mind for ant movements to keep ticking over. (moving profile to better space is good but also waiting for it to go down from mass or one reason or another is always also on the horizon). So it's really limited having more people here and not being able to do much any better and that's what I personally want . developing now we have the tech side and need the people believing in themselves and others a lot more.
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It could risk this place also having more people like the latest thing that gets found out and goes away / templated out of meaning.
I rate the overrun factor of commercial interest more stronger than us doing what we have free right now so if we are not to play better games every day here and even step things up now we also might not have safer space or people that can re-create this again).
I would say we might find ourselves *wanting* for an ideal as a larger number but really what we want is quality avenues and movement paths.
With more numbers we might realise "what to do with them now they are here but acting like they are over there still?"...
which naturally is like "well, let them do whatever" but as the shit-shows go on, no not really over here please (sometimes it takes for shit-shows to come here for people to realise what we should be have doing all along, so I'm saying why wait for that?!).
As I see it it's also like this culture pool of people now, small / medium, 1000's of manageable responsive, clever, articulate people (of just a % from those that are responsive and want to entertain testing more things) but if you can't get those existing clever people to practice themselves and changing their mind using regular pub-style meetings then that's the acid test answer (i.e. we're not good enough right now to scale anything, the stock culture bacteria isn't strong enough to go seed / spawn anything).
Some might settle for something slightly better twitter, fb, insta and leave it there but I think you really have to entertain letting people work on finishing these quests to reduce their power while it's still small compared to where they will be in 1 year and the next.
The main point (if you are looking for freedom or not) is not just to have numbers but quality and methodology moving forward.
Give me the people and I'll show you these tests which are also about asking them... if people want to see change.
Many is seems have regular positions, enough wealth, regular comfort, good ethics ... and so see if people can do something for them / with them without too much mess... else more of the average stock person which doesn't have something setup for them isn't going to get much further and might quit Mastodon (yeah I believe we could pave the roads and help grow better people and not just accept twitter refugees as stock which is just going to grow more average people or need lots of time before they really get whats happening and being done about it).
Really out of 1000's then I think we better attempt more things before we really do get what we wish for and crumble under the weight!
If people are conscious or not... at some point that is the point I mean with the question. Sure let people hop on but also make paths and avenues for people to get together and facilitate that as branches.
While a little more conscious moving / talking I think the main game after moving here can be better... and the headz here can help make a better game from these shoulders we're on (thanks for sure to those before us).
But we gotta cut our snakes off a bit more. Really allow each other to do more in many more ways.
Can sounds ungrateful but it's natural to finish or unite the chain of things. I do check myself regularly so holding back can be good yes! But no activity / only experts busy = bad.
Basically if we can't do it with this small group of pool as a sample then the probability is just going to be fairly not much more even with more people.
The aim is not only to get people on Mastodon (I hope) but to let our own things fly.... even with clever / nice people bashing is nicely (at least it's not the mob) I think that works still.
Whatever you believe in at the end anyway it ties down to similar centralised/decentralised stuff and I think games / activity can be at various levels (from vocabb sessions to more in-depth stuff for example). That's the basic steps I see with Mastodon as platform right now with all respects due to existing effort perhaps more isolated.
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@Unabart Had to read again fresh after a while but I think I got it well and agree...
Also about being inclusive yes but not actively inviting is also different... and also from a social engineering perspective better to encourage less maybe if it's truly the same kind of person we'll get which yeah anyway we'll get eventually, just my hope is they don't get stuck at my stage and basically we don't have anything to do even if we have got temporary freedom and want to help other than donate... (I can't blame designers and admin for not implementing or redirecting their time (ok I will a bit!) but also it's a natural curve of resistance / refocusing... and then 1 person comes along who thinks he has has a solution for everything and actually probably does with enough will power from those can tune the idea up a bit or flat say it's wrong so I don't spend years on it never finding any reasons why not !
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(i.e.) Right now we don't have the answer or paths for people to funnel even between those of us here who could literally serve each other.
I could literally map out examples but needs admin to have balls and time in general. Generally is permuting what you / others care about and endlessly fuelling that by taking and doing... making it serious fun.. but with nobody here or there I seem to have nothing / not much most of the time (but I have found excellent moments with people, including reaching natural points like friends who get a bee in their bonnet and I usually outlast people who disconnect easy... so if you're in it for long-term let me know!
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@freeschool It’s being peddled as an alternative to Twitter. Maybe not by you or other instance admins, but the general consensus is that Mastadon is a free-er Twitter. With that in mind, expect a swarm of new users ready to push that to the limits, unable to grasp that while speech is free, so are consequences for poor free speech. If you want to be inclusive, you can always shut the doors and moderate who you allow in, or just buckle your WTF Belt and take the ride. It’s going to happen.