Any system will find a big problem after time when it comes to humans and valuing things by 1 standard if it misses out many of the other attributes or values held but those people.
Maybe there is a cut off point but if a system fails to value those attributes which in the end are not measured, and then human-attributed values and preferences are not counted for, then you could say the game of measuring everything is more often not measured than is (we could make a list of all attributes and subtract what is measured).
This probably ties in with life too as 1 continue thing and not just work (which largely doesn't care and we'd hesitate and question why they did care also).
How people feel, where they are going, their hopes, what happened, who is the biggest arsehole of the bosses to manage or move on somehow because they force down everyone else to do the bad work for them etc.
If it consistently fails to value or measure attributes important for humans or humans-attributed value from a persons perspective and preferences then discontent and other problems definitely occur (in that measurement or displaced in everything else as social problems etc).
Not paid to care, that's the shortest way perhaps to write it.
What this means is instead of being easy going, we force things into being measured only in certain ways and numbers and don't care if people are happy about it or not or it wouldn't be a numerical thing.
Being happy it's not a supported measurement more than kicking people out or marking their card if they complain the business barely keeping them alive is not fair.
Happiness opens a big topic but it can be seen as simply 'are you happy about x or not?' and honestly taking answers and making life around that someone... (bending the tree of life back this way)
Happiness is also about things related to things like physically being able or not, or motivated or not (everybody has a different body type or thought-process and seems un-fair to assume standards are ok more than expect everyone to be different and not considering it one big learning adventure instead).
Apart from some basic *loose measurements* I think asking people constantly about happiness also gets use to similar places we try to feed people with instead of demanding or using financial system to force people to work.. only to eat, drop into a coma tired and wake up again.
So people work for places they *far* from like and don't agree with so maybe this could be a project.
MY NOTE: COMPLAINTS PROJECT
But that's the game of force even though my ideal comes from more the individual side.
It is possible to ask people to try things and even filling in the slots themselves... but the anyway the expectation for perfect constant motivation like a machine to do things and work for someone else or non-nature based work (travelling to the concert plastered city).... is far-fetched and also too much in itself to expect and the wrong way to do things.
We could find better things to pay ourselves for in better areas of city or places in the countryside. But I guess people won't let us... This post maybe tried to say what is quite obvious but I'm not too sure if people see it (I'm sure they feel it but not see it written much or others looking to do something about it like make a complaints system about everything!).
People need to feel valued and relevant for their contributions. Thymos per Fukuyama.
@amerika
I guess that can be generally measured as what to all the component parts to that definition of what being value means but within that also there are various levels and individual ratings to each of those categories or labels, like how someone can more positive or not or value this category or being valued more than that category... which is why some bosses don't care to define it or do it with the people as they go along (as the people are the driving force sometimes, not a system). But then they create a system....
lol my brain just hard reset over that paradox... !!
@amerika
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\__/ (pint of ale please)
Hard thing is that money is also political so even for my friends or 'comrades' some might say it's hard to spend money... but I would work like a dog in the right way to get them that beer.
Everything is political at some level because everything reflects a decision of what is or is not tolerated in a society.
If I walk past a guy taking a dump on the sidewalk, I've just voted for the "taking a dump on the sidewalk is OK" party.
Today that party is the Democrats. In the 1870s it was the Republicans.
You can see why I am an #ethnomonarchist ;)
@freeschool
I think it is relatively simple: people need to be able to do something well, toward a good end, and have others cheer them on and buy them rounds at the pub for doing it.
Everyone needs a place, a purpose, an encouraging environment.