Everyone loves to complain about the government.
Yet, who really takes an interest and
does the work to make it ours?
;
Government as your enemy is a myth
propagated by people who get elected
to profitable positions and create
a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Government is what we choose
it to be as humans working out society.
Complaining about the government?... Yet, who takes an interest and does the work thing to make it ours?...
@libramoon k This is one of the good questions I can use to try and learn something...
And why people might not try is also reflected by the length of this post or generally how much of our life we need to invest (at the same time as other parts of life often based on the wrong time-pressured things)... but without digressing too much about time... back to your post...
Something I would ask you (even if it's the same as everyone else) but just if you have ideas what to do or not do - just saying more about this as what you said is good but very general or even people know it but lack their own direction to try or think of something to do)
and also add just for clarity:
Are you saying. we choose Government ourselves even though we are sort of paying others to mess it and giving freedoms away as a kind of contract / civil class thing?
And then even if somehow those people in Government can get it together and do for us, it will always be divided (like 65% say this, 25% that, 10% vote the other thin) - Do you think Government can 'work' since it seems to be so hell-bent on pressuring / pressing down on it's subjects for money matrix?
And most Governments seem to be working often against those that speak out - so it's not just us wanting or being human - it's our bad parents / bad suppliers / changing system contaminating everything that literally it's hard to change water back after it's been supplied badly...
It's often highly psychological but Government can be successful in making people not speak out and even shell-up (turtle style) to avoid any attention or be targetted (which is why numbers help and de-arrest people if attempted to single anyone out)
And as we are all being targetted we might think about 'attacking' smarter and in less extreme conditions or less obvious ways (to avoid being targetted)?
Again it's a psychological thing and I like you sentiment and we need people who believe ...
(Hard to write lots about it but imagine could still out in the future and start )
Complaining about the government?... Yet, who takes an interest and does the work thing to make it ours?...
@libramoon For sure - I think complaining is part of it (also naturally- so if there is/was a good complaints system it would work and I have seen it work)
I guess it's easy to overlook there are good people or good processes but it is a bit of a gamble and if it doesn't work you're somewhat marking yourself as an anti-something or person against 'conscription' that they that you complain to want and force others to sign up to... and will do you eventually.
So resaying the points in this post;
1- complaining anonymous or in numbers see to help not get targetted
2- there is good somewhere but in the whole structure of bad seems to go wrong or wasted energy very quickly (though complaining is also - yes it's possibly last thing and when they can't stand it do it always in the same less-efficient achieving not much change)
Complaining about the government?... Yet, who takes an interest and does the work thing to make it ours?...
@libramoon Sure - is fine too with poem.
Just from what you wrote it didn't really go into much depth or answer to some of my longer stuff - so looking just as mass you see I'm looking at this xyz and isn't really enough or much touching on points brought to you...
You could also be just complaining...
So I'm more saying "so what to do" or "how to do the agent stuff you are talking about... considering more have those above / bosses..." and job people in need of job than justice more, if they are just at best line managers or more bosses under bosses...
It's also ok if you also don't know the answer and want people to try in a different way to complaining (for example).
Complaining about the government?... Yet, who takes an interest and does the work thing to make it ours?...
not to complain differently, but to learn to act effectively
Complaining about the government?... Yet, who takes an interest and does the work thing to make it ours?...
@libramoon For me I understand but if trying to get through to people of the common type I think your text reflects how general and unspecific it is (not even trying to grill you here but yes learn to act effectively is maybe best thing you said but far too general for person to try. I think I should leave it there after repeating myself and seeing the mass or depth you write - and I'd even like to help you and I find more specific suggestions or template paths for people to try, but largely it's a personal thing and they will find their way when they find reason, hopefully).
Complaining about the government?... Yet, who takes an interest and does the work thing to make it ours?...
I'm not trying to get through to anyone.
I'm not the convincing type -- too "weird"
I do my work and send it out for any who finds it of use or interest
Complaining about the government?... Yet, who takes an interest and does the work thing to make it ours?...
Complaining about the government?... Yet, who takes an interest and does the work thing to make it ours?...
@libramoon I think you sent me this- as answer to my questions,... but maybe you could reword it according to what I said (without sounding demanding just this is a bit well poetic more than customised answer).
Chorus of woe.
Not ours to do.
Pesky tasks for vague thems
to assume.
Most human of vainglorious attributes.
In gathered room of prayer, con-solace,
commoners sing of pestilence.
So pleasant a dingy air.
Cronies, kin, at one in entrained disdain.
Don’t come crying to us when your fancy plans
to have us all be haves and happy can’t become
a cause that leaps with us all as brilliant flame.
We can’t be responsible, aren’t the abling crew.
As ours are trained, we do: roll eyes and complain.
Complaining about the government?... Yet, who takes an interest and does the work thing to make it ours?...
maybe because it is a poem
which I sent as addendum to my response because it is background -- something I wrote awhile back on the topic
Complaining about the government?... Yet, who takes an interest and does the work thing to make it ours?...
@freeschool
people like to complain, act as if there is something someone (government) ought to do, yet don't bother to learn just what government agents can do, or how they as citizens can bring about the changes they claim to want
it seems like the complaining is just a valve to let out steam, rather than using steam as energy to do the work needed for the changes we claim to want