FreeSchool: Learn Respect Love @freeschool@social.cleverlibre.org

Shortest Version:
How to manage humans? Pretend your in charge now.

Adding to this imagination, imagine how to perhaps am at respecting every individual / animal (human with different attributes and different wants or weighting for wants)

That's the main question

The rest below is just more details which explains how I see humans as animals (in a nice but honest sense).

The picture are also chosen specifically which can be commented on if not this question of how you would do things.

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Detailed version / More background to why:

The question is imagining you have being given control of humans and seeing the world from the perspective that these existing humans are not fully up-to-speed in many ways and these type of peopel (animal personalities) are of different ability generally, mostly currently more like "follower animals" (sheep maybe or just living people) and/or " not so caring / not so taking responsibility" people. Just as human species and not really making it their 'job' caring for others (people / animals are not 'bad' just some get it and some don't, some want to try, some never do- how to balance that without much force?)

So a multi-meaning sense of animal is meant here without looking down on humans but also being honest they are not ready in many ways or just very untrained or even just different / unique in themself regardless of race / culture / geography etc !

WHY DO YOU ASK <--- MANY POSTERS DO MAKE THIS CLEAR

So asking this question helps me understand how else to manage animals nicely (or humans!) because right now people are a bit uncontrollable unless dominated / lead / given food but then manipulated, slow in the mind or practise of humanity.

Everyone at the same time generally demands respect not matter what their lever, really likes food, shelter, warmth etc, AND can do some things themselves, maybe does and doesn't want to know some things or just need trainings....

Limitations can happen but either way something needs to be considered because inevitably involving different types of animals (imagine giraffe, elephant, lion, insect, bird etc) all with a bit of different language or perspective need to get along / find their place which I see as the challenge here...

let's say they all understand English on a basic or middle level but some will get some meaning of words wrong or give more weight to some more than others so the needs sorting too.

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SUMMARY --------------

The idea with this question is to do it *differently* to how people are doing it today! AND IMAGINE IT ! So not to try forcing a normal or using number / money tricks values and making it appear balanced from an uncaring hand called government with almost 0 aim to really make it better or equal between people and even profiting massively from making some people suffering to provide the East/West dynamic against people or against West/East type dynamics)

THANKS FOR READING

Imagine thinking what will happen next, if the ideas you want happen very soon (like tomorrow) or someone gives you that you you you think will help.
What next?

Are you ready fly out, have you done it already with what you have... can you go do it already but kinda make things an excuse (it's natural like people playing with toys more than doing something and interacting / sharing it with others).

QUESTIONS THAT WILL HELP (AND YOU CAN REPLY TO HERE)

How much of a testable reality is what you are waiting for in the now....?

DEEPER / LONGER BELOW ( OR LEAVE TAB OPEN TO CONTINUE FOR ANOTHER TIME DURING LUNCH ETC )

Often we don't know all the steps, and I'm not expecting all of them but to have different 'possible' horizons to switch between I think is useful for 'imagining it' before the time it is realised as well as surprising new things that you can choose along the way.

Often the imagining help it happen and you might not even believe it yourself once you simply pretend / have some permutations with a bit of calculated joy!

What next once you get to achieve XYZ moment... or achieve some status? Do you know what next...? Where / Who / How?

Maybe it doesn't matter and it's more of a feeling... pin point that!

Because I see a lot of great stuff by artists or creators (all of us) but perhaps the main thing is getting our shit together cleaning our bedroom of ideas).
The system doesn't care enough also so it's on us... the system measurably doesn't put money or organisation into some things... so we have to use that for the other things... it's good to imagine that too as a dynamic even with a bit of money to grease these wheels.... selling out perhaps from seeing famous people's lives might still be empty...

You can be the best and ignored or just lost in the many... So the the dynamic I think helps between me and you to also helps solve some things...?
all things... eventually?

SUMMARY
So my writing is not to stop you doing but see that practice of imagination / knowing steps is useful... make a drawing or mind map, doodle it now before you forget.
Even money doesn't solve things...

People are the dynamic, spiralling better things, healthier circles, education, perhaps some brute force dedication while with one or two forging something but then coming back out again to explore,

Solid things you like and love are good BUT see the chess pieces ahead and even put them as pieces on a board and see how they can work with each other or alone.

Perhaps I'm even describing my own thinking on that and through this it's falling into place in my mind.

I encourage you to write here anything.

@TerryHancock @alcinnz @avalos@mstdn.social @josias @be

SHORT VERSION:
I would like to suggest the idea to make it more personal and therefore more measurable before handing your work over to machines.
It needs thinking about as a separate thing and while I might not have it 100% below, but it's adjustable with something personal for the way forward between people and medium.

LONGER VERSION BELOW
(Note: Mostly replying the messages by @TerryHancock only)

The idea or ball-park tactic is to make it personal and more measurable in that way in order to achieve what you want as indication / reassurance / respect (love to hear more in order to consider it).

At the same time some of making it personal in your work and in life it creates by-products or involves more (obviously more than what is wanted usually) but handing it to machines seems quite an obvious cause to most of the things you mentioned and the typical 'what did you expect!' :)
I suggest these things below because I think you can it your own accordingly or even start personal and when you're happy enough reduce personal level of interaction. But it seems either way it must be more personal otherwise else it falls in the list of things I picked from your text, generally perhaps you're not sure from all the downloads and people what's happening with your material.

If I get you right what you would like both the personal and measurable sides which only the user might know or might say about)

So my suggestion is:
Rather than not being personal much at all, make it more about that. At least in the early stages of hype or release it seems that is the time to get what you want and that way get a bit of everything.

To give it to a machine more pr less make it anonymous or depesonalises it. It makes your work plain, less human and perhaps most of all less-memorable.
I write a lot forgive me, perhaps just now I can say:
"human contact before download" as the way and then in a friendly way "you also figure that out!" with suggestions before

While I've mentioned personal I believe it can be purely from the user sending you personal data and from their point of view (not personal always that you need to be there or have 2-way interaction). Machine-assisted forms might be perfect for you where you get a comment by the person downloading every time to confirm it's not fake (like a spam captcha but giving you feedback on "Why do you want to download this?" and "How did you get here / what's your journey" and you would be able to get your signal or feedback that "my work is great because they like this or saw it from that..."

To make sure you it's not just take take take + getting feedback I think this would give you a bit of a disposable bombardment of signal that "yeah they are real and they do like the idea of the title"

Moving on from that kind of idea, more personal could be 1-to-1
email and reply or 1-to-many (like on live forum/live meeting) before giving it to machines.
Hold your gift also with some personalisation. You will get your buzz and reaction from that. It's an effort but I think there is a balance or enough to get what you want then bail out gracefully!
This wasn't easy before but now safely and instantly Jitsi Meet can do this right now (for example: https://meet.jit.si/mybookmeeting) and then share link there (and then publicly / more anonymously)

The suggestion can be the longest-but-more-surest way, based on getting feedback with some of these ways listed; again perhaps in other ways, some I've listed
- such as a form with a box people (similar to contact form but goes to download or reveals link after). People can type in saying optionally why they are downloading it, what they like, encourage them to praise you! I feel like leaving work out in the computer rain is just a bit cold and even negligent! Have to point nicely and even spoon feed a bit to make sure it's not wasted.
- Sign guestbook - simply anonymous, even with a few spam one can scroll down / reset after a while
- simple etherpad / online text editor just for them to say hi
- mailing list
- mastodon account... Questions could be sent 1 way as comments or if you're daring 2-way!...

I think people are happy to describe (SHARE) the journey they are on but we are also avoiding it and putting computers as filters and over-protective guards.

For hit counters that you're not sure about (you said you already have that on Internet Archive) maybe these things could point to your mastodon page or guestbook for them to scribble on, at least to LEAD people into other things from Internet Archive or leave some thing (maybe you have this done, haven't seen anything - some put their audio or books there without much note and I guess that's a typical school-boy error I'm covering, some visual picture of you of whatever more memorable and stands a bit for itself)

GENERAL MESSAGE
It seems this part may be overlooked or an easy innocent assumption that writing a great book and having massive piece of work done should automatically earn itself something different in the area of marketing :) Not really unless you're already famous.

If you (one) can imagine it as an object out there on the internet with lots of other objects, + the habit of downloading already, then you can imagine it as just-another-download.
It's something to click and gobble and even yes it is something personal to people but like you said you can't see it... so that's one of your main aims I guess.
Things can grow behind our back... or we can tend to them as we tend to people taking our stuff... "Hello I'm the author, please steal my book and let me know how it's going for you, what do you want to see in life?" <---- !!!

If you acting just as a dropper of object impersonal, then yes what would I expect? Maybe some comments like thanks but nothing much, no links to me or ways back, no time given to this so err guess that is fair in the balance of effort for that.

The book is one big work but it doesn't do the personal part or much difference to an impersonal hyperlink to this or that other thing.

Something more memorable is ideally what I'd like including:

- Talking with authors, even before reading.
- Have the book signed after
- Sending comments on video page (book page). Seeing other people's comments. (All make people feel part of it and gives feedback you can easily scroll).

So I think perhaps if you're able to invest some time in some of these methods and practices with fans directly or indirectly without too much tech then at least those downloading have a chance and way directing them... otherwise there is not much value because they haven't read it yet and perhaps it's a chore to find your page to contact you (for example with your download do you have a contact link or easy go-to page?).
All of us forget or appreciate pointers so after digesting it the come back or paths are obvious.

Some of this is the way to go even for only the early part of release.... with machine assistance and without (can be combination or something to test and traverse on to next weapon after trying the one and getting tired of it to massage all things nicely)!

*Some* might hunt you down and search but it's certainly not doing yourself justice to not put links to your mastodon account inviting contact or some way *before* giving it to a machine just to copy out and just give you an anonymous hit counter.

So what homework did you do to get something back more ? (if you did then fairplay, I'm completely fresh here, but the creativity in this is also maybe an art to balance after releasing a few things to see how it comes back and can be food for practical thought in your work... NO OFFENCE to creators but it's this memorable person contact that is now worth more (even for shitty stuff) because there is so much shit and good stuff so as usual anyway it has to be more personal.

A few more points:

If you're approach is rather giving it away (which is good for those that don't mind and accept the work might have to organically doing it's best over the years) great, but if you want some appreciation or measurement that too needs work too.

- even 10 personal people might be great / enough
This could be a more manageable way because "who wants to meet and greet every fan?" (even if it was possible would you want to message or talk to 50 people over the course of whatever timeline you can manage? I person would even at 1 per week- happy for the interaction- GOLDEN one might say!)... so I'm suggesting something in the middle of 'extreme' here without even claiming it will be perfect but you get the idea.

- This personal touch is missing as far as I see across the board (or there are people doing it but systematically or industrially it's being cut out all the time so that is the inverse of what we need to do more often to put meaning and relativity back to life, not just machine like efficiency.. to really grow life and yes use/abuse machines too)

Pput it this way, whatever you put out there, if it's not more personally treated and just for download then it's possible that's what you will get.

If you're looking for something measurable and personal I suggest you do it yourself the hard way and smile with personal endeavours... I am happy to 'manage' meeting / moderate / collect people without it being a paid 'management' type thing.

Because if you let things go then it's not much to wonder it doesn't come back, you also have to escort it a bit, plan for that, even as part of writing the book!

I hope that make sense and we can even personalise it more to your tastes as these are just as range of things you / we could do. I'm also offering help though first keen to see what you think and how motivated you feel for some of these things.

If you don't mind - Make your own points of what you liked and didn't like to get feel for what you think. Thanks

Putting any monetary value on people or Earth is a mistake.

@Mek101 Makes sense and 'if only' people were looking to fix problems that would *pay* them (which is part of the paradox- why because those who pay are looking to make problems!)

The problem is that those companies come from a head company (government I think) so it's them - they or that mentality is are part of the same systematic way and pattern that seems to give us life (not much just survival mainly) so they decide this morality based on these low initial default levels (and to have less and less as time goes on as they take more and more!)

Nobody has all the kill shot ways to undo it (bitcoin has done fairly well in it's own way as it can bankrupt them and avoided big lock-down so far!) so their tactics are to just pile more things to undo or 'destroy' while we panic and try to save! Keeps the kids busy! (they are the bad abusive parents getting us to do unnecessary saving from their deliberate mismanagement)

Indeed the problems are companies and then the regulators as governments who for self-existence (keep their own jobs) probably don't want to equalise the leverage (solve things) that their companies are doing well with their irresponsibility / less accounted and less visible fraud / damaged via xyz anonymous company names hiding all the bastard mentality etc...
Every company becomes a front for doing bad things and gov is happy sucking back the taxes from everything to build their own empire infinitely bigger... and wasting it on things humanity can do without.

Indeed a crisis!

@Mek101 I think that is how hospital staff are grown in and perhaps based on their helping nature somewhat willing and coerced into doing unpaid work... WHICH if I could be honest after a slight pause... is true in some sense....
ALL OF US (maybe!) would do what we love for free so there is a bit of a trick happening to all of us (maybe) where YES we don't have a way but MOST of us would do what we like freely or at least not under everyone maximising profits and having banks be top of that unbalanced 'maximising' and trafficking of people....
So why this is unfair is also the *monetary* / monetising environment where there is a *moral* thing which what money fudges for humanity and skews into thinking xyz is bad on top of these defaults...

The whole business of people is bad. IF there was the WILL in system, instead of taking more we 'could' be saving and put that towards good in theory do what we do already almost for 'FREE' since people are at least aiming for that direction (and not he other way!) while *taking care* humanity (not just keeping body alive for slavery). If we all get what we want as food, shelter, less domination, and a long list of things... like we somewhat do now but a bit more carefully as time goes on...
...then we have real human rights right?!

But $tealing it all from top people down to squeezing the poor expecting them to make up 'deficits' (deficiency of this mentality) is exactly the problem... buying/selling/renting it and people back to ourselves forever!
Not human rights.
ETC ETC
we get nothing anyway and they make the line about living or not, so doing chairty or a even sub-slavery isn't really it, it's all that default stuff and what's happened before that as the construct that is opposite of human rights and not even aiming towards it!

It'$ more passive aggressive stuff saying 'hey we didn't kill anyone but doing ALL the bad work in the meantime
Just saying :)

Giving people things to play with and then using that to take away more in the long term - a fucked up tool for extraction / devaluation... quite basic but clever... like casino chips
- your odds are bad
- they are plain stealing stuff using any game you play
- and often (daily) change the value of chips from far away over time... works it's evils very well....