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@jayeless
Haven't used toilet paper for years and instead use more abundant stuff (many clean options).
How is that for #climatejustice or #climatechange ?... and less #ClimateCrisis #consumption ?

Thing about that when you buy from supermarket big massive, lightweight, over-produced, transported stuff for assholes.

#toiletpaper #alternatives
#less #luxury (for true climate activists maybe!)
http://freeschool.0id.org/toilet-paper-replacements/

@Sycaid What Babies Want Documentary

It's along the same lines of what you said. Family-friendly video (can watch with youngens really).

54mins (watch in 2 parts to if it's too long for you or family)

https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=-3mtFRjEVWc

goodwill (definitions)

- A disposition to kindness and compassion. The friendly hope that something will succeed.

-(accounting) an intangible asset valued according to the advantage or reputation a business has acquired (over and above its tangible assets).

@canwolf It is something I've found common where in the modern-day someone may or may not understand the problem or explore it enough first...
AND then on top wants a solution from someone else.

If you can see this human equation above, it is erroneous.
It is hard to tell people who can't see or are not taught (in common life or in sciences) that the human problem is not always a scientific or 1-shot answer or that it should be expected someone else has the answer instead of understanding the problem also much deeper.

So here we have something similar where it's a human problem and the solution *IS* the talking, IS the participating in understanding FIRST. But for many this evades them or they assume one person can give them such answers at the same time as trying to explain the problem and not claiming to see 100%. So it's probably a team game and this is what needs to happen more than anything.

It seems to me that people skip this part and also try to go 10 steps further trying to overreach in a 'solution' by those expecting it to be perfect and also the solution not been more of a slow-burn development... So yes I have some idea but without you and others looking part sciences or money, then you (plural) are still not going to get the solution or you (plural) are going to create problems in the solution AGAIN which I feel is the cycle happening.

Most of the solution is understanding the problem enough in this case and what's happened to us over a long time... AND then solutions will become more clear... it's you do it backwards your solution will be flawed... or people will start to look for holes (people are better are this or it's easier than talking around all the satellite problems and finally understanding one day) because there is a lot of bad work that is easy to do and also like 'efficiency' demoting or cutting out this we need as humans... and this includes expecting solutions before real study and consideration across many disciplines.

I'm not scolding you but it's very important to learn what we haven't learned, and going in to more area than which even sniper type you have been trained as and temped in analysis.
Often this sapience is in our schooling from youth but then we turn into sniper (in my observation and from how system is set up and some responses I get from mathmaticians, german-efficiency type thinking etc which is all good but unmoderated dangerous in it's 'efficiency' or non-caring... so to make a 'solution' it's easy from this perspective not to understand the human side and exploration needed to solve things because it's not rewarded and system not setup that way using psychology and deeper cross-discipline things from engineering or maths to caring psychological outcomes,
Maybe in business there is a bit but of what 'm looking for by the other ways (so not business for tricking people, number manipulation and money, but more ethics and measured acceptance of different people and ways even if a little business is the transition to the other side wherever we go with caring involved)
This involves hours of talking and doing what others have deliberately or not cut out of the equation (humans! caring, measured but accepting ways, trying to avoid the common pollution / devaluation of money or minimising it / not selling out completely etc etc).

I'm asking for you to have regular conversation and allow people into that conversation, as this increments the awareness but also a basic continuing conversation in the first place which in safe space helps to upgrade everything else in a person. This I can do with 1 or more people and so can everyone else.
I can also moderate a group that can see the result in my ability and even test it blind to see what I mean about the humanity that is needed... not just numbers etc.

Peaceful is good but nature of 1 individual or many has internal self-conflict and many external factors unavoidable. The idea is not to block but let our in a controlled way and deal with it nicely. If we agree this paragraph then we have to accept any heat / anger / passion / protectiveness people bring us and accept it while I can use language to show components and where there might be this misconceptions / fallacies or even just more-human possibilities a bit more as I'm more at peace with myself and expect everything from a system that has 'efficiently' cut it out.
Our task is to humanise a bit more.
Join me in chat,.. (invitation to you and everyone). Happy for this to be publicly or privately done for a small meeting 1hr perhaps so I can explain this live and direct to you (plural) and increment weekly or whenever you feel is right for you. Thanks)

I think I'm happy with what I wrote but feel it's a lot of text... so let us move into audio conversation so I can adjust these things as we go and even invite more people to listen and take turns like a 'round' table.

[oh wait..]
Let me rephrase that...
My idea of language is that it's not only for ordering people around
Ideally it's used to get everyone what they want or harmonising which is possible I think if we can improve a few things about how we use language itself! (i.e. not just ordering people around)

https://qoto.org/@stormtoast/108239007630341430

@cweickhmann
I made a recent post about not expecting a system or pattern to incorporate ANYthing voluntarily... and that a system (pattern of mentality) is only going to do similar of more of the same while appear occasionally sane (the truth is more in the spectrum of insanity as you mentioned). It's a bad joke and we are realising that either way we have to govern it somehow...

I think it's relevant and even though we all know and see it- it hasn't got into our brain yet how opposite the system / ill the mentality has got with everyone following. Because life can seem so logical etc but the only logic is all these big and small wars by warlords, Not trying to be dramatic either - just sooner we realise the better - everything is created by laws and these tools to constrict and rig to trap everyone. Soon the better we realise whatever we do with eyes open is better than this fake justice.

https://qoto.org/@freeschool/108237794896576508

I'm looking for tips... how to solve this human equation:

I don't claim to write this perfect... but this is also the problem...

people are not expected to write perfectly are they?

- my problem from that is:

people often don't want to learn longer / harder stuff

- perhaps that isn't true but I determine the above by how many avenues it goes wrong when you have

more volume of text or add more depth....

- it's like a chess engine but people's brain on the lowest setting (not even middle)

So more definition to what they are ASKING AND THEY CARE ABOUT but brain conks out when you try present almost anything

either their language usage is different, their expectation in your answer... it's as if there is not exploration needed, that everyone speak a common language and style....

I HAVE TO SAY (NOT TO THOSE I'VE SPOKE TO BUT MAYBE GENERALLY THIS IS MY 'WHAT THE FUCK MOMENT!' (Meaning I'm stuck and holy moly it's perplexing and ilogical, it's not big anger)

So when other people they ask questions they either expect short answers or can't handle long answers <-------------this is it
When did anyone learn all the time from only short answer to what measurably is always more complicated in answering that asking!

It's not the same for everybody but basically they expect to understand something new without using the brain too much or it's like a generation (civilisation) where any working out (like maths) and any heating up of brain involves blaming me!!!

This comment above is also a reflection of the person who can't read into it. And doesn't help they don't mention or use logic) to say WHAT PART or how...

It's such a bad game I always don't blame people for going nuts! It's like the worst crazy where people seem sane but their backwards!

I hope I eat my words here, it would be easier than a long life of backwards progress or 2 steps forward 5 steps back
- abandoning
- funnelling emotion
- finding person issues (with me and/or themself).
- just anything to avoid doing their homework (and usually it's their stuff or our stuff so it's not just selfish me here)

That's the 'short' version for what is fuuuucked up! Welcome writing your experience, even if it's slightly different to above or if you're not sure how to answer (I will assume this is not easy both in my saying or answering!).

Some might call it TLDR syndrome or being over-protective with strangers, but even with people I'm been friends with long time, seems common with everyone
people say they are stupid and I admit people may have black holes but almost an unsaid total lack of responsibility is when they don't want to talk more after just startin(!)or like they have very small brains and feel like "oh why the person has to tell me about the worlds troubles even though yeah I'm part of it"!...

(they are nice but also seems weird stranger or nto)

... bizarre

I might add moer to this but let me know and give it your best shot (but don't kill yourself or me over it!!!!)
:p

I never hear anyone talking about Native American troubles and stuff...
Anyone have some good links or even better someone I can talk to about it?

The reasoning:
Chess is a lot like puzzle solving and a few similar dynamics in life... if you can train your kids (and yourself!) to accept someone else's better puzzle-making then you can literally have more accepting people and a measurably better population in life accepting loss of this kind.

Also people can accept they are not perfect because Chess is not only about death and damage or defeating people or ego. It's about accepting happenings, puzzling and even learning to forget about it while still able to play the next time and not ignore this game (or these deeper and easy-when-you-know parts of life).

You're on the right track if you can imagine that.

Because a system* which would never design or develop something against itself is what I believe were measurably in. Most things appear or even outright promise things and never do them or just switch the chair to appear something has changed when those in the older mindset (authoritarian, warl-like mentality) simple are not going to allow or design a system that can design itself out of that system.

I believe that is the *system* and it's truth (system being a pattern) and above it's own survival or profit there is nothing or not much room to play with anything else humanitarian.

Even in the 'complaints' department there is a pre-determined funnel of information of the complaint, a pre-determined avenue to which nicely fits into what any company (including government) want.
This interpretation of what you said into their own template and their flow limits any blame or responsibility as we see in real life or anyone that has worked and seen injustice every day or the injustice that gets moved onto another department to avoid the complaint being seen in totality.

A definition of system in the context:
(system = an optimised pattern of mentality mostly from the days before such as the warring warlord days not too long ago) and the added new business techniques today (optimised government and it's governed business extensions called 'company' or 'business' registered to that government)

I reserve the right to optimise or retract what I say, to make it better for the intention of measurable good or goodwill I have inside myself.

Talking from the "I" perspective and saying "my experience is" helps keep conversations more manageable or relative I think...
So rather than something far away or more virtual, you can speak more confidently about what you have experienced and what you are experiencing right now.
And rather than speaking on behalf of others mostly, speaking more from yourself.

don't be too good without learning what bad is as the contrast!