@nathaniel Could be called "Society"?
@nlnetlabs
Would be good if you could put audio link to video page as my bandwidth sometimes can't do it...
something like this page where I can go direct to audio:
https://media.ccc.de/v/mch2022-198-trusted-cdns-without-gatekeepers#l=eng&t=0
feel free to rip the audio and put audio version for this video (64kb filesize = around 10mb which is pretty awesome for what we get while we can work and listen, even after watching the video which I often do to try 'get the best' out of it / do my homework well by repeating it audio only)
FUN for FUNding
If anything is fun for you, join me!
I hope this is one way we can avoid costs because we love to do it ourself and even want to give to other like-minded folks better things to do (I'm not asking for money here but fun!).
Random chat about fun or funding welcome in instant chat!
I can clarify!!
@Tutanota
Anytime. If you want to hear me talk about subjects on a friendly level here is a link:
http://freeschool.0id.org/?s=audio
Option are there, choose what topics you like - mostly human orientated with the technical things in mind, as it seems life is mostly a human problem or equation on top of everything else! And understandably not many want to work on that!
@nlnetlabs
I like how it was presented more neutrally than emotionally.
@Scott1984FP Ok thanks!
@dentangle @downey
lol indeed such is the way for many things... and not politically aligned enough
I didn't get how it gets people to thrive and participate (?)
Is it just the clarity and premise of Health & Safety more than anything?
"Bank-in-the-middle" attacks...
(...need to be solved)
@rysiek@mastodon.technology
ok got link (was further down reading)
and just for others it's below AND has audio only version (TOP MARKS!)
https://media.ccc.de/v/mch2022-198-trusted-cdns-without-gatekeepers#l=eng&t=0
Platforms for People on a Mission... how about some more collaboration on Mastodon?
I saw another website which inspired me about what's possible on Mastodon.
I pasted the ideals below to show what I'd actually like to experience more often on Mastodon and I think all it needs is someone credible to collect the skills and put them together even loosely.
Here's the website with the parts I've wanted to share below (website isn't important and just for reference of it's text or intentions)
https://www.hylo.com/
" Hylo helps groups and networks build community and a better world, together. "
" Know your community
See who is in your groups and networks, what their skills are, and what they need to be their best. "
Sound ok right and probably what we have on Mastodon.
So I think we could work together the same way.
Hylo' software might be trying to do what ultimately a person or leader needs to do anyway whichever way you try because mostly a person needs to assist other human individual to grow things which forms a group when continued in a circle or chain of work.
I may judge the software's intentions completely wrong but for my wants I'm focussing on doing things together regardless of what they meant (the text was the inspiration to confirm what I already wanted and present here)
So people mostly do it themselves but while having a trusted person (nothing big to trust just an organiser) to overview and lead.
I think even a whole instance could get involved if the admin had enough time.
So the format would be generally 'do whatever you love to do' but in a more organised way...
And 'leaders' are really 'lovers of projects' who can pick a worthy project and loosely pick others to lead micro-parts of it or even randomly stick parts together according to whoever is able to do! Could be random / ad-hoc / art style work! Just whatever if there is already will and skill for it!
PICK ME... PICK ME!
I don't think I'd be someone people respect (from a lack of aesthetics, technical limits (more aiming for humans than tech), and people's need and conditioning for aesthetics or needing to know what you dog's name is otherwise treating you as suspect- but someone respected on instances to give even false fascia would be enough to do good work that checks itself as it goes...
COPY CAPITALISM BETTER?
I guess capitalism has done well to organised and give reason to funnel things (into more capitalism) but I think we could do a bit of fun and serious work our selves....
What do you think about this?
@Scott1984FP
Interesting and that's for the mini-clip (I prefer video in the message to save myself getting too distracted)....
also I sent you a direct message basically to chat more generally about these things... do you get the DM?
@ademalsasa
The answers for future polls could also include the option:
"No I don't (selfhost) but I'd like to and often thought about it"
PROGRESS IS SWALLOWED UP BY BUREAUCRATIC COMPLEXITY
"Large software projects and automation do not really improve social efficiency. Any gain is simply consumed by bureaucratic complexity, and it's detrimental to society. Thus, today's developer inability to engineer and delivery large software projects consistently is actually a great thing!"
- niconiconi @niconiconi said while making a TL;DR summary of a page here https://mk.absturztau.be/notes/96s2pede8u
NOT JUST NUMBERS BUT FEELINGS ALSO IN THE EQUATION
Life isn't about numbers only if you're human. although some would like that in order to maintain order.
Life and living is about other words like how happy we are and level of human feelings related to things like;
happiness, consent, emotional feelings, personal direction, ...
These are commonly excluded or avoided with numbers (since it's naturally a different format for measuring) and used by mankind in order to gain leverage including 'scale up' things as exchange if excluding those things to get power at the end instead.
So for example, how happy we are and satisfied with life is more important than specific numbers written anywhere.
OPTIONAL / EXTRA READING (IF INTERESTED)
And often people can be happy with less if it has other human sentiments, including progress without just numbers are outlooks on life and people.
As part of nature we all value many things quite highly, but to put numbers on it is a mistake or number-only considerations are in the spectrum of extraction / taking only / not caring.
Numbers can be therefore relative to not caring and key for many past and present regimes using numbers and currency to effectively extract from culture, convert it to numbers and not give it back as anything vaguely cultural (unless you like money / more numbers more than the list of your own feelings and value of happiness / being happy, giving consent, having emotional feelings considered... etc).
@thegibson I like that running a Mastodon node is the 21st century's BBS
@gemlog @mpjgregoire@mamot.fr ANGER IS GOOD, ✔️
BLIND RAGE BAD. 💀
Anger is usually ok and correct if it's not blind rage and misdirection of emotions and logic.
Anger while knowing with definite action to finish things or make sure is good... (often a big less anger also helps see more but as long as it's not rage or always anger, then you're doing ok and will get to the bottom of it).
If you can can pivot from anger often, all is good.
In the case of Facebook and STEM backing it... all is exactly a science for profit and at cost of privacy. Grrrrr.... 😠 ![]()
If you find something you don't like, it means there is something to learn about it.
The giveaway is that your very feelings that exist when you see or hear about it - this means you have crossed wires or unsolved things about it... which often with 1 good person actually can make better sense and even enjoy it (even with bad sides).
Often we put things as a big representation of what is micro choices... so past the offending names or triggers of Facebook, Bitcoin, Google is other smaller things we still need / want to solve and that is more healthy as the focus.
Extended offer:
I can help you a few of these blocks or problems (Google is a problem but we have inter-personal things that enable it)
I as a guide, it's you mostly your helping yourself -just don't blame me progress that may hurt as a natural domino of feelings, that this helps shift as part of the process and healthy at the end.
So just to confirm, this includes understanding what you hate, feeling more at ease with it. Inviting it to dinner.
"TO WORK IS TO LOSE" (pictured)
MY STORY ABOUT JOBS AND WORKING
"To work is to lose" (text from picture)
When I young exactly 16 I think after high school I remember being in the kitchen and looking out to the garden and my dad said:
"From here either you have to work or go to college... you can't just not do one of those things like take an adventure"... to skill up etc...
This picture comes to mind to what I said in my head (and know college wasn't much better and what little I would do there also)
I took the easy way out to college only to delay working... and maybe even a few jobs at some time are good but the whole things is bad- right from banks to upwards to mini bosses everywhere like a bad computer game with too many bosses copy and pasted on the screen.
But this picture says it all for the wrath I had in my head for people suggesting to me the weak game of playing their game called 'work' - what a fucking joke.
To constantly lose by joining their 'team'. They have designed it well. I respect that - NOW FEEL MY WRATH........DAAAAAD!!!! 😡
(It's not easy for parents but it's not a good way out to not in not undoing some of this stuff as much as possible and from the beginning like taking one big adventure after high school and dying while resting on your sword of principle). ![]()
@gemlog @mpjgregoire@mamot.fr SITES AND PEOPLE WITH FACEBOOK LOGOS & LOGINS
100% agree with you and now I see people politely as a different species.
I mention it and if people are not willing that's it... Dumped after trying. Very similar to what you said with how obvious it is.
"You will be a lonely person" is what my fellow eco person said when I explained how these paradoxes can't work.
Nobody wants to be alone I guess... this is a phrase that comes to mind and is like a test of strength (picture the Mortal Kombat 'Test of Strength' bonus rounds.
There is a counter login of using mass but actually the mass is 99.99 no good for our purposes (of needing willpower and perseverance)... How many willing to die with out it or accept banks extension of life is of itself not actually possible or fair...
Using FB etc is similar to a low-chance sacrifice technique in chess... and you only end up feeding them more about you and your movement.
Un-Politely said (just to get it clear) people are normally a kind of weak / shit / untrained (don't understand what they are doing or not politically strong)
So while I admit getting in touch with masses is an eventual thing 99% will fail us even if they all looked at mine or your page (their own lackings are stronger) because they already chose and know by now. Everyone knows. Some even defend using FB or believe all-you-can-eat APPLE GAFAM etc can work in the end - CLOWNS.
( I'm not even hating or being anti-capitalist.... apart from the clowns bit! ) - they are just different species or people at different speed. Let them eat cake and see how it rots their teeth.
I'm glad I found you but literally I am sifting through a haystack for needles every day... and I'm prepared to do it that way as all those logos tell me "I'm a shit person" (FB sites = not aligned / not in check / ignorance is here / I trust banks, Vulture Capitalists etc)
On goes the painful search..
for Unity!
My suggestion without big emotion is just move on, find me or someone else and hammer well together... or create what you want to see and hope others can improve it...
Reduce the 'hate for yourself" for tuning in to those things and slapping your face again! 🤨
I'm always here too as live media / medium :)
i am more pure.
p.s About picture
stem just happened to be in that picture from the pictures I made and had... STEM people are not excluded and can even hang on harder and more dearly to that which basically fund them because it helps them makes these things (not all stem is good and of course backed up by industry, banks, Vulture Capitalists so not wonder you have FB... so small-tech for the way... sorry STEM hate to break it to you)
It's about changing / opening our minds...
I give people time and I thnk that's the difference to others online who really don't have or give time and give up on people really easy... (don't mean to be competitive, no put-downs, just I more dedicate time to others and weave us together).
So you don't even have to read any of this because EVERYTHING needs time + communication and without that a lot is broken and even less human even if it's for good...
Just follow and put notifications on to TEST MY FEED.... the rest below is just over-info for most poeple.
Open Learning School or Freedom University...
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A lot you might be at length and depth, but if you're easy about it, you can take the best and even take me along to understand life with others!
To learn and do everything practically! (this is a practical living (and gets stuff done as much as we can).
Fan of Fediverse!
Quick Look - peace-loving work / services:
█ Mini-Podcast (few mins each, examples below)
█ Picture remixes / video remixes
█ Lessons without being too 'teacher' about it. Teacher has teeth for eliminating doubt.
█ Food for thought as gentle soul also.
█ Unique ideas - often impossible for professionals (they are burdened by financial repsonsibility and therefore associational risk in saying things). I'm more diverse and occasionally direct (with respect, though I don't shy away from reminding people).
█ Not too embarrassing to say "I don't know" but can still chase things.
█ More responsive than casual users usually because people think having 'job' is enough in life. I say it's not! And even faimily is of no use if it's only getting worse (in everything!).
Podcast Examples:
1. Gary Ackerman's thoughts on AI
https://qoto.org/@freeschool/111867522723922385
2. The Little Prince book
https://qoto.org/@freeschool/111845561003150354
3. Fantasy genre from a fan's perspective
https://qoto.org/@freeschool/111845709367492677
I help people create audio / edit educational audio / podcast / music / visual short videos / transcript text
+ I like to add a bit humour while being quite strict in my own politics (opinions) but open / inviting for others to tell me what I should do if they can explain more than just a short comment (I don't mind it's healthy for me at least if you have logic and can stand yourself explaining).
FreeSchool is about Learning towards Freedom (which is about Uniting everyone slowly, even "1 by 1"... Easy with The Fediverse!
Not virtue signalling here only, but practise of EVERYTHING as we go. Judged by getting in contact (many have) and having courage to communicate (or seeking it from others is ok, EVERYONE needs a bit of courage or hand-holding to make big personal changes). Who else is there for example if family doesn't understand?
Learning and watching can be good and staying out of people's way, BUT better is doing something every day and helping each other with some tough decisions / lessons... and then being bold enough to do them. 1... 2... 3 that is all that's needed.
Let my posts do most of the talking.
Put me on notification (click bell that appears after follow ia accepted) and if it's not interesting switch off after and tick me off the list of potential people to follow daily!
Media version of my posts here... open link for later... good for visual scrolling version and judge me on that I don't mind...
https://qoto.org/@freeschool/media
I'm usually impressed with my media gallery as I work on posts a lot usually or hit the "Aha!" moments and capture it (other people may forget it for years, not me!).
Freedom is about *making it work together* better like using #Mastodon on the #Fediverse daily for better platforms with more #bestpractices and 'best' people to help us which I kind of collect here and
when it's #1 comment!
I am measurably better because I reply and stick to everything to the end(!)
No cancelling friendship suddenly without saying why or being moody!
Freedom is to Learn, Respect and Love eventually and ️to Unite!
Practically it's also like Tetris - add yourself to the puzzle and watch it all happen...
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talk more on Mastodon and the Fediverse and puzzle it all out using better ways to less use the other bad commercial / extractive people...
L£$$ of the less caring people like the ggl's / ytb / gmail / mainstream communication points etc who are offering lots of space 'free' and it's not free of peace there.
We GIVE to real people (TIME NOT JUST MONEY).
There's no buy-in solution - we have to make it with selotape or whatever we have - it's not shameful to bring whatever you have.
FreeSchool is terminology put together from many good things from past (coined in 1950's/60's. I / we become it eventually through being.
It's a movement for Freedom via Learning it all (learning self included and less active stuff) and doing the learning *together* --> https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeschool.
I encourage you warmly to participate with me as a I have time and then spiral out naturally to others (we are part of humanity and so naturally a sort of evangelism or ecological pyramid of life as we choose to spread lesser suffering while accepting consuming is part of it).
Less-commercial in orientation (in everything) and happy to think / work for free.
Naturally you will hesitate if someone is sure of themself or ok standing on shoulders what we copy do the best from humbly but not too sterile either.
Based on just emotions ruins almost everything, which seems very common - very ungraceful - so don't disconnect... do it gracefully at least!
A "school" of thought is here you can interact / ask and make best together as free/low cost as possible.
Even a bad answer you can take best from (of course I won't know all your situation when I suggest something but I don't need to answer 100% - you also need to help me!).
Leave perfectionism, we are all imperfect humans! Let's do it... Choose something ANYTHING and keep the thoughts rolling together...!
All content under the Creative Commons license CC-BY-SA-NC. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/?ref=chooser-v1 Thereby, ideally, only using tools and resources that are #FLOSS #OpenSource. #nobot