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@CoffeeFingers@noagendasocial.com
(re-drafted) I like what sir_vito said... and then you get someone who also from similar sentiments find priority also to say otherwise. So it's true we weren't there and can't say anything helpful about what you went through... but I have to try rationalise or reclaim some logic or something (language isn't perfect) and perhaps I call it sanity right now that in the modern world this is the norm...
probably something to do with feeling the US conquest$ and overall what it and it's people are doing (the mentality, it's development of War, Manufacturing. Worldwide damage)... which isn't less than an individual dying... but this comment relates to that family aspect of it coming from that region ---> You have people basically signing up for war... (even medics or defense parts mean you still know what the head of all you effort is, mostly the optimum efficient effort for killing of others and 'defence' of what you think is right <-- 'active defence' (or "the world is mine and nobody else's" mentality) so your comments bug me a bit that, yeah for a short while try a job, but don't be surprised even if you're a medic that make it your life supporting that... so again completely out of context and not really intentionally hating here and writing for myself somewhat.. feeling sorry is ok but also for the massacring Vietnam families or whichever era and war you want. Shit is just crazy and all that jazz doesn't make sense to me in the overall onion skin or wrapping of the mighty USA stomping on people (and now it's own people as we speak).

I guess in a strange emotional way your comments seemed to disrespect me or mankind to feel sorry for such bullshit employment.

My 2 cents here might be 'too cheap' or extreme but without real intention of solving war (US far from it) and the consumed process of making and executing of war makes life cheap.
It shows that virtues can be wrapped incorrectly so family if you meant that is not what I would consider here and maybe only by blood do people consider them 'family'. Again my 2 cents.

" Take good care of your family and they'll take good care of you "
---^ That's a nice virtue but over-kill in terms of war unless we're all family and don't make / sell weapons to opposition / work for them / have ma$$ industries etc...

That's NOT the kind of family or gang I'm thinking of... it's more the human kind of family... which without blood otherwise kick them out on their ass... until they get a job!) <--- AND THERE ARE ALWAYS JOBS OF THIS KIND AND SOMEHOW NOT OTHERS <-- strange accident that and no coercion at all.

Family makes the Vietnam or long list of other families feel cheap top cry over. But that's just another way of seeing it and my own quest to get over it and start trying to actually figure a way out of this poor exchange of life.

@CoffeeFingers@noagendasocial.com
Alright. point taken.

While I will also call out a poorly timed meme + low-relative meme accordingly.

Just remember to expect both sides to be represented. I appreciate not everyone wants to solve these things or even acknowledge them (hence your reply).

You might see things said as divisional but it's SIMPLY what undoubtedly is underpinning life currently (and killing it) for a long while and at the forefront of many struggles if not THE #1 'UNITED' struggle in aggressive and passive agre$$ive war.

Division exists already - HINT it's in the picture written and labelled in the picture on those people's chest.

I notice you don't acknowledge that or many things. So take that as constructive. Knowing is indeed satisfactory even if no 100% answers than don't think that's meaningful work... and so point taken about extending it and unless you want to the question I would ask you to ask yourself everyday is "what am I going to do about it" or 'what is constructive from here'?

Feel free to come back with more constructive replies or just consider what the answers might be more than throwing oneself in the firing line.

@CoffeeFingers@noagendasocial.com
Unfortunately poor jokes and your loss isn't going to help much.

That 'family' system you think you support or are duped under robs you of your time and energy (and has your family).
At bare minimum they / systems pretend to care as they replace people like a throw-away replaceable battery... as we saw with veterans looking like blown up trolls begging in wheelchairs without legs in the street of USA while cars are wait at red lights...
to pay them their pity...
since your family doesn't.

An as if that does rip you a new arsehole, the hospitals send them away or do bare minimum for the after-war welfare and profit from the insurance premiums.

So show some respect for your own loss and don't reply too much with how the world is - you only dig the grave further and disrespect the memory and awareness for all the copy-paste situations happening everywhere with profit and plundering.

People are dying for the wrong reasons and all you got is that picture in reply...

I'd like you take the picture and the wording... and call it a loss as that's all we have at the moment.
Nothing of your cheap meme quality can defend this kind of death and negligence.

I'll gladly take the first picture as a hit if that helps since I agree maybe not much else does...

@jordan31@fosstodon.org Not sure I would calculate evaporation since I'd be taking it quickly and would always be someone who could make use. guess keeping the water there is something and stopping it getting too algae and pond like... which might still be useable for dishes... hmm

@freedompatriot
What if all your existence is based on sin or consumption / being breed on it? (Not making this something extreme I really believe that's why). So if your who life was allowed by Petroleum then how to 'stop' using it now everything is based on it (including your job, getting there, the trainers on your feet, clothes you wear)... Honestly I think the fire thing is obvious but it's a slower less obvious siphoning of energy based on the foundation sins (ma$$ive BigOil) which we never saw or did ourself and even if we know / understand... what to do is the question right?

@jordan31@fosstodon.org
Guess a long trench could be good and then industrial plastic lining to keep it fairly watertight (even strongest stuff might get holes from plants though) - but I like the artificial stream idea (would be waste of ground but something thinner or even mini-river ! hmm kinda achieves and could manage that quite easily... even make a small dam etc! Could be a bucket width and bucket deep...
Yeah also bucket under existing streams / roofing work really well (need bucket under but yeah!).
But a discrete mini-river...
hmmm

Oil / Petrol Products List (144 of 6000..: 

One 42-gallon barrel of oil
= 19.4 gallons of gasoline.
+ The rest (50+%+ = making things like:

Solvents
Diesel fuel
Motor Oil
Bearing Grease

Ink
Floor Wax
Ballpoint Pens
Football Cleats

Upholstery
Sweaters
Boats
Insecticides

Bicycle Tires
Sports Car Bodies
Nail Polish
Fishing lures

Dresses
Tires
Golf Bags
Perfumes

Cassettes
Dishwasher parts
Tool Boxes
Shoe Polish

Motorcycle Helmet
Caulking
Petroleum Jelly
Transparent Tape

CD Player
Faucet Washers
Antiseptics
Clothesline

Curtains
Food Preservatives
Basketballs
Soap

Vitamin Capsules
Antihistamines
Purses
Shoes

Dashboards
Cortisone
Deodorant
Shoelace Eylets

Putty
Dyes
PantyHose/Pantihose
Refrigerant

Percolators
Life Jackets
Rubbing Alcohol
Linings

Skis
TV Cabinets
Shag Rugs
Electrician’s Tape

Tool Racks
Car Battery Cases
Epoxy
Paint

Mops
Slacks
Insect Repellent
Oil Filters

Umbrellas
Yarn
Fertilizers
Hair Coloring

Roofing
Toilet Seats
Fishing Rods
Lipstick

Denture Adhesive
Linoleum
Ice Cube Trays
Synthetic Rubber

Speakers
Plastic Wood
Electric Blankets
Glycerin

Tennis Rackets
Rubber Cement
Fishing Boots
Dice

Nylon Rope
Candles
Trash Bags
House Paint

Water Pipes
Hand Lotion
Roller Skates
Surf Boards

Shampoo
Wheels
Paint Rollers
Shower Curtains

Guitar Strings
Luggage
Aspirin
Safety Glasses

Antifreeze
Football Helmets
Awnings
Eyeglasses

Clothes
Toothbrushes
Ice Chests
Footballs

Combs
CD’s &amp; DVD’s
Paint Brushes
Detergents

Vaporizers
Balloons
Sun Glasses
Tents

Heart Valves
Crayons
Parachutes
Telephones

Enamel
Pillows
Dishes
Cameras

Anesthetics
Artificial Turf
Artificial limbs
Bandages

Dentures
Model Cars
Folding Doors
Hair Curlers

Cold cream
Movie film
Soft Contact lenses
Drinking Cups

Fan Belts
Car Enamel
Shaving Cream
Ammonia

Refrigerators
Golf Balls
Toothpaste
Gasoline

@jordan31@fosstodon.org
ehehe... a little bit of water 'stealing'... an interesting approach... short-term though -

especially since it's almost for free falling from the sky (that's the aim for washing hands, storing for plants, bathing in etc:)

any more sneaky / non-sneaky ways?

Best way to collect water?
(Condition: Assume no long guttering involved.)

Living the problems of BigOil / Petrol discovery / extraction and the future based on it... 

What if your existence is based on the original problems of BigOil / Petrol discovery / extraction and bullshit.... I mean specifically that if we are breed on it and wouldn't be able to have all this stuff then then doesn't it make impossible US (USA, US in world production based on petroleum products etc) to come out of that?
My idea is perhaps just to slow things down but that means just slowly dying mostly.

I really believe your whole life is almost allowed by Petroleum else you would be naked without it.

How to 'stop' that is unbelievably hard to control as we don't have control more then the ultimatum of this designed life or almost nothing.

Using it now is the based for everything by design (including your job, getting there, the trainers on your feet, clothes you wear)...
The based foundation / sins of ma$$ive BigOil etc is what we never saw or did ourselves and even if we know / understand what to do other than live like me somewhat ?

It's difficult as once you have something bad somewhere it's slower less obvious consumption of energy (though for me it's really obvious when your clothes label says Polyester*....)

* = Any of a large class of synthetic fabrics - A complex ester used for making fibers, resins, plastics or as a plasticizer.. Any of numerous synthetic resins

@freedompatriot
What if all your existence is based on sin or consumption / being breed on it? (Not making this something extreme I really believe that's why). So if your who life was allowed by Petroleum then how to 'stop' using it now everything is based on it (including your job, getting there, the trainers on your feet, clothes you wear)... Honestly I think the fire thing is obvious but it's a slower less obvious siphoning of energy based on the foundation sins (ma$$ive BigOil) which we never saw or did ourself and even if we know / understand... what to do is the question right?

How do you reverse (if possible) negative mathematical numbers of which now life basis itself?... 

Is it possible) to reverse negative mathematical numbers of which life was created as basis of life itself ( (as kids or western world living) and continues to increment in the negative spectrum.
This debt or forever %'s on top is what was / is questionably existing in the first place and make going back or going down in numbers possibly ONLY about going down in numbers if the will is not there to maintain the trouble of undoing fake boost of currency or leveraging debt on debt constantly, never equalising or going back to planetary economy (which is natural and compostable working in different ways to money and also forcing us to wok in different ways to take care of it, not profit accumulation through banks and lenders. housing paid over and over again etc). Puke.

Why GPL? "Using the GNU GPL will require that all the released improved versions be free software. This means you can avoid the risk of having to compete with a proprietary modified version of your own work." More at u.fsf.org/3kr

Daytona is simple. The track, the tactics and the fans.".... 

"Everything about Daytona is simple. The track, the tactics and the fans."

My comment: That has to be the most stinging truth about the game, yet we still can love it for it's simplicity and what it captured so well, even though yeah it's kinda shit without read steering wheel and multiplayer hookup....4/6/8 racing seats and big sound.... ah well (much money spent but glad I held back and basically watched mostly and made my excuses not to play!)


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Important job interview questions engineers should ask (but don't)... 

Especially First 2 and Last 2 on the list....

"How many daily active users do you have?"
"What are your fundraising plans?"
"What's your runway?"
"What assumptions are you making to calculate this?"
"What are the company values, and why? Can you give me some specific ways you've followed them?"
"Who decides what to build?"
"What does a typical workday look?"
"What are the things or behaviors that would cause a person in this role to fail?"
"Can you tell me about the team I'd be working with most closely?"
"How do you compensate the team?"
"How do you attract and retain really strong hires?"
"Do you share board slides with the team?"
"What motivates you?"
"What are you most proud of so far?"
"Do you plan to sell the company?"
"What's the company strategy and why?"
"How do you and the other founders avoid falling out?"
"What keeps you up at night?"

RE-EDITED VERSION (was qoto.org/@lucifargundam/108581)

- originally from posthog.com/blog/what-to-ask-i)

@rastinza I basically had the same thought and now I just work through pinging them all and create a rule like:

- if they don't respond after two messages then unfollow / don't consider serious

- just talk to those that reply and casually browse home timeline like you don't give a fuck and see if something comes up to msg someone about... but yep some scenarios that helps decide to unfollow or ignore is those:

- people don't reply
- people reply to others and not you (selective / secretive non-reply)
- who are just different / they are different / almost inactive
- too many to follow on your list unless you have some rules
- put 'notes' near their name (can add what you already covered etc)
- trust in "regular random" as paradox as that sounds but isn't.

But I agree too many posts or even too many to follow... happy to hear what you decide or what you go for since of course everyone is different / going for diff things.

In my case audio chat communication as a way of 'practising people' itself as the bonus of allowing ourselves to advertise to each other / share for those that can and if they can't... maybe later later for them.

Greed exists everywhere and breeds unfortunate alliances... 

Greed exists everywhere and breeds unfortunate alliances.
Though no greed or no alliances = almost no material progress (near-0 which is a big difference to bad partners at beginning middle and end, but something we're learning needs some kind of stringent balance or quality-control almost impossible we so many people/groups in between)

@jalefkowit I agree about the "People Literacy" part, and probably a "Society Literacy" part (or community etc.).

At the same time we don't expect people to walk into a workshop without having some lessons in what tools do and how to use them safely, right?

But I suppose it depends on your view of the use of a computer. But no matter how simplified you make something, as far as I see, everything around us requires some training. It's fascinating watch my kiddo learn how to use things. :)

TLR;DR All people are needed (...above and below any line or margin)... So "both" is my answer! Yes!... 

@jalefkowit Thanks for link. So "both" is my answer! Yes!

TLR;DR All people are needed (...above and below any line or margin)

More people available means the range of simpleton to technical can be served in multiple ways (that they might not expect)... together! And this social glue or practise is what is less trained and just less visible (which we can make more visible and more a priority even as token gesture e.g 30mins per week with someone random like me or those even less measurable !).

People in the middle (not too simple or too entrenched in their work) are PERFECT to bridge both sides and without trying to convert anyone totally (just be yourself)... so the level below and above can still be "team-building" without trying to sound like we're all selling it to each other and while still being fun.
Less resistance is needed to giving away time (again just 30mins or 2x15mins with a random) just to let go about how much it's a waste of time or measuring time too purely... just "invested time" to share a it of perspective, to learn, explain, explore technical parts and prioritise practising the people practise no matter what the flavour. Either way both yin and yang are actually needed and part of the same whole that spins the other strange as that may seem!.

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-----> THE EXTENDED VERSION -----> LIKE CROSSING THE SEGA RALLY "TIME EXTENSION!" CHECKPOINT!

ANALOGY - SIMILAR TO SPORTS
In sports those in the middle CONSISTENTLY help those above and below their 'belt' for different types of training and IMPORTANTLY they have the TIME *and* MOTIVATION to enjoy being partners (to any level or belt)... to be test subjects for sparring with the experts (i.e how to be more human with more types of people as many experts stink when too competitive or specialist), or being patient with the newbies (increasing awareness to normies toward something more than they started with)...

Usually experts in sports have 0 time for the above or even less tolerance for them!
I guess this might equal to a developer not answering some messages (though many do answer a lot but let's face it it does to be 'selective' in answering of things though can get to a point where it's overly-selective answering to the point it's ignoring)

Planned time to chat to others lower than their belt even as a group helps people feel accepted and radiation / hope increased, otherwise almost opposite happens and distance is increased (or anger, frustration festers)... and unless people are sometimes *made* to "put in the time" (allocated even as token gesture to the scene like book signing events) then they will not do it (to their own detriment eventually).

This is a Social Movement as in this short paragraphy under: Philosophy_and_activism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Proj

For a movement to have all wheels rolling it needs everyone spinning the web around BigTech or BigIndustry to slow that stuff down AND ALSO SOCIALLY ATTACK with our strengths like annoying ants with a variety of abilities! But can't expect a few devs to do it all - that shouldn't be the way for a whole movement to change, logically it will need everyone so might as well start now the forever meetings and rotate people!

It's almost these micro-management things or opportunities which will eventually win and binds us together for rolling punches, and yeah also sometimes we want to a piece of respect to say " yeah I spoke to that person once and wasn't so bad even though we disagreed" so we are not be so polarised by lack of contact - just being heard - "He heard me at least and that was enough")

So that is how I think it work. I think I'm a black belt in this as it's not classically trained as job (I'm here for sharing, caring and WIN:WIN/WIN-ALL)
So there is not always a sport for sharing... instead call it "Sapience" to bypass these sporting metaphors. Sapience is what is going to kill off all other competitive, divisional, self-inflicting things as we will be much more aware what is the long-term goal and stronger as people to say no / yes to stuff while specialists can still do their thing. Yes would help if they showed up in the lower ranks... and giving time to lower ranks helps use spread it all but more consciously.

Feel free to use my stamina, motivation or ideas (so not everyone just me as a test)...
I'm sure some have appreciated it so here some measurable evidence to start your motivation... but remember people work (or even 'social engineering') is also not as visible as a web page or link (I'm a human, so do try the warmer human way first! I can respect boundaries, just not the text-only kind if you want a human movement to work for you and for themselves).

Thanks for your time, it's incremental investment of the social kind so stay in touch at least with a 1 or 2 (like me for for example) not saying everyone! (...though eventually it is possible like container passing on the spirit to others!)

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