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@norG@photog.social Scarcity will drive people / animals to fight or compete.

Artificial Scarcity in the case of humans.

More around Artificial Scarcity below and the way it could be without greed or just much less...

That also includes added rules that nobody knows or sees / are too complicated / un-customisable / Top-down / selfish Laws made by rulers / government for their own favourable outcomes.

A Bee is more sovereign / individual - earth is a plentiful planet which is true for human I believe though not for all luxuries (and I think that's according to nature right and what we though we could do without damaging our habitat).

If we could accept everyone staying alive first / feeding people without over-taxing / profiting / indenting them- THEN we could really sort things out (it's a bit chicken and egg but working on doing things more humbly minimally we could still go back to thinking about other toys / brute-force ways that doesn't undo us and damage our lifestyles too). The way is important. Even one cow per family would solve a lot!

In this context, if the nectar was finance, then faster would be the debt creation and planet would lose out / breakdown from fighting!

So sharing is the way whether it's local only or something more... just withOUT cheating planet and people more often.

Another way to put it, the rulers have / stole planet but even if it's enough honey for all they would still want more or to put up the price to 'maximise profits' which some couldn't afford it.
They steal our energy like we might steal honey from bees!

Life is a lot cheaper than people think of course just layers on top and agents wanting more and more %. Just a bit more nature-based family keeps the 'economy' as the planet itself and not other arbitrary layers of greed / authoritarian domination.

We can achieve a lot more than the waste and over-kill in buying life when it was already given to us / could be given forward instead of paying back for other people's fault / mistakes / financial greed.

Might edit this... but first 2 paragraphs reply more directly to picture.

@lupyuen Do try using more-private / filtered YouTube links!

This is the same video filtered from adverts and tracking

invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=

0 adverts and 0 tracking of same video!

I also added a time jump to my favourite point in the video "The real winners are going to be the lawyers...)

Promise me to you Invidious filter!

redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=

Keep seeds warm / grow seeds using warm air from PC (power supply unit or processor fan generates constant heat).

A warm room with a lot of equipment making it warm also might help once temperature is high enough for your seed (38 degrees for some seed).

Bring plastic pot closer to PC base unit or hang at the back a little behind the PC (nailed to wall for example) so the plastic gets nice and warm and seed germinates.

The direct heat can be used to get consistent seed temperature (and then plant outside when it's nicer). Almost 38 degrees for example for Apricot seeds in tiny yogurt pot or smallest drink bottle.. so it's quite small and light (not much water etc)

CHECK YOU PC TEMP O_O
Use thermometer outside and in the soil :p

Of course I'm not doing any of this... "I'm just warming you up for the idea" :]

Oh come on entertain my jokes!
You're keeping your coffee warm already that way [aren't you?] so seeds are just a plastic pot away to test (and any fruit from wit seed from shop will do / can grow)!

@deBroglie
If you want to talk about metaethics and hear other people's point of view just send me a message to join informal group.
I can send you the time and date for meeting (no subscription or anything involved, very simple using browser only) and we can question these thing and listen to each others perspective and take our time to say our own opinion (1-2mins usually)

It's an interesting subjective... objective... topic right!

Just send 'yes please' and I will send you info.

Theory of Relativity today can be more about people-inclusive theory and gravitation towards each other more than just objective science... 

I merged some theory of relativity type stuff with people themselves as the subject.

A way of changing the context towards people and their relativity more than the absolute original concept

1- "all frames [or people] related to one another by such a transformation are inertial..."

2- "Newtonian mechanics added to the special principle several other concepts, including laws of motion, gravitation" [to each other or around each other]

[Newtonian relativity in this people way with the physics gravitation towards each other]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principl

ADDED COMMENTS:

TIME IS ALSO A MAN-MADE COMPARTMENTALISED THING FOR PLANNED MATRICES

The whole idea that we 'lose' perception of time around good people or while we are doing good things (so time might be compartmentalised more due to inventions everywhere as a man-made matrix design then us always wanting to know the time
... i.e from 8am-5pm I must work and from 9pm-7am I sleep etc
In older days many things were synchronised by people and when they feel for it, when the arrive or to cut the long grass whenever!

@didek and intersubjective means - subjective, but common between people. We may say that idea of money is intersubjective - money doesn't really exist objectively (coin, note or record in bank database exist but they aren't fully what money is - our belief makes that they represent some value), but almost all of us believes they are real.

@Maltheus
Digital Money - List of links relative to that recently...

Comparison of Gold / Fiat / Fiat Digital / Bitcoin / Monero
poa.st/objects/4a12196a-c637-4

Monero seems even more amazing (if you have to accept "it's a good way NOT debate it" even compared to Bitcoin's positive or idealistic points...

Monero EXACTLY WHY it's better
yewtu.be/watch?v=QrHsFZBab4U

Donations page example:
invidious.io/donate/

Bitcoin video thumbnails (interesting titles from SimplyBitcoin.tv)...
qoto.org/@freeschool/108093167

Principles Meme: Technology, Philosophy, Economics, Finance, Memes (Bitcoin) qoto.org/@freeschool/107922904

Can anyone mention a technology or methodology that has really changed modern life... ?

Not just sped up but more entirely new...

A car wouldn't be the case for me (petrol / diesel) unless it's really a big redesign. (You can exclude electric car just for this thread)...

Basically we have to get everyone with a problem into chat, and let us solve it for each other!

How? Read on...

We basically have as individuals the other pieces of the puzzle that other individuals can't see clearly / naturally don't have / don't know they have etc...

And solving other people's problem can be MUCH easier than your own (can be hit and miss BUT this is 100% the *process* for solving it ---> not expect 1 person you ask advice to solve it 1st time 100%... but left and right gets you there)

Another analogy is we are playing poker but instead of playing against each other (or the system playing us against each other) we start to play co-operative and give / swap cards... only by GIVING can we complete things from this default scarcity driven system who doesn't want to share itself and just purely profit (which is a type of energy death itself)...
By sharing we do it. And actually it can be fun swapping and giving cards* away.

* cards also can mean services, what you're good at, mutual interests and will-power together

Do the above and watch it all fall into place.

At some point you must see the patterns and even if someone doesn't declare war or manipulation, to call it that.

( a lot of people need to hear it from the oppressor about what they are doing to realise it is what it is... so any clever oppressor will not tell you, and best is never tell you, so you 'never really know'... but over time you should know and stop giving that direction and behaviours a '2nd chance' 20 times... from individual or system that needs not guessing and making your own individual plan to solve (there is no waiting for others always and organising could be done but also let's the cat out of the bag too so choose well,.... but do choose as it doesn't get much better and needs curbing inside the system or workplace your in... so using existing rights get dialogue going... not just leaving (it's easy to say when you have feelings but suing your company or using it's own rules against it self is probably best way).

To exist work fighting rather than exit and someone else fresh to replace you (which is easiest for them). If you can make it incredibly tough, start all the human resources procedures, suck time and economic worth and then consider sticking more knives in.... until they break or get sabotage themselves by declaring and drawing lines clear for others to see (a lot is often unsaid which is EXACTLY how the technique works and I would like help others counter).

Finance is a type of Fascism

Choosing who can pay and who can't is as good as a kind of racism

Pushing prices so only the top half can pay and those who can't suffer is premeditated cruelty and a softer war, but still war nonetheless forcing knock-on wars (domino and wars that spiral or loop)

Keeping people alive with so many conditional aspects and so many tied mini-games is as good as choosing people to die or starve if they don't meet all the criteria.

Fascism

Don't be the one that gets angry if you didn't ask for help but expected it.

@lucifargundam
I recommend a draw game.

I think we both made a meal out of this though I favour my side because of the 'everything bad' as a type of underlying life tangent, I represent what is measurably control and power (of again everything)... nothing seems to click for you to continue... so I would draw this game.

All is good it seems for yoru world perhaps and well you might wait for specific examples on my side or can't accept your list of the bad things in the world... perhaps this stops you even mentioning your own exceptions in life...

So I tried twice, I think I can accept something isn't working here and well your reply is almost like a tease. So I wonder now if you're serious. Probably yes but computer kinda say no or I haven't asked it in the right way or given enough parameters apart from life is pretty shit - do you understand ? If not goto LINE 1.
Do Loop

I can't understand (without much frustration) how you don't get it at all and I must be missing something also (could be true but seems you might not be one to tell me). I do include that many times people can somehow not see using something bad to do good doesn't work, people don't get it literally it could be a big con and increasingly so... as if they can't admit it .
So you might agree but don't see overwhelming examples everywhere and can't miss (spin a roulette with all news on it or throw it as a dartboard list) but then you can't even counter or say anything much of an example yourself... rubber duck? John Wick?... are you serious?
...even humorously for sure you win.

Anyway... a draw is good for the attempt but you must be happy or content or blind... (and that includes me when *maybe* one day I realise something else

It's like a chip is missing... and don't mean that in a looking down way just would be happy to find it but I'm going to call it a draw game and part of the modern position. Understanding not found.

Saying so clearly so many times... to try and counter what in reality is literally everything... well maybe there is no answer for that

but what you said which frankly is overkill.

I also experienced it with more than one person... always technical or engineer orientated it seems... people who might totally agree but somehow can still overlook everything...

@verita84
Hmm, I can get that too and even come to terms it's nice virtue people aren't capable or there will always be something...

what does confuse me a bit is every major country using the lower class or other race to pump up their empire or run their system... without them or lower people I'm not sure they would even exist and just not focus on each other again (and find fault)... how would it work with less immigration (assuming there was always a reason and excuse to 'let them in' ?

@verita84
Say more about pure whites, what would consider that to be?

I can believe people had plans of various ground based on race...

@verita84
I'm not sure anyone really had much of clue until recently what was good or bad more than the family / gangster type protection which doesn't seem viable either... and probably we're just coming out of time not long ago people burned witches and people just based on hearsay and gossip (so still quite the case today).
Even those labels (which I don't claim to understand 100%) I think anyway people are not really thinking in terms of. They wants easiest way and that ends up the hard way / someone else doing the brutal work externally and off and on internally on 'their own people' which itself is all mixed up now we've pretty much mixed with everyone else...

@verita84 Guess it's not much protection that way, though do say more what you mean...

If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next-

Better yet don't have children at all until this is fix - it's not a fit world for them and forces more competition (soldiers) for us to fight when they take up their jobs.

Qs1VfLcU2SI from 2.18 (not official pics)

Some video comments:
"The family of the future as predicted by the manics a long while ago..."

"Sadly we had have 1000000 warnings and yet nobody willing to leave there comfortable bubble... time running out!... Hidden agendas getting pushed"

Manic Street Preachers

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