Gary Ackerman Podcast - "Artificial Intelligence" series
with @garyackerman / https://qoto.org/@garyackerman and @freeschool
🎤 Part 1 in series:
https://qoto.org/@freeschool/111867522723922385
🎤 Part 2:
https://qoto.org/@freeschool/111908857505285606
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NOTES / EXTRA READING:
█ Stephen Jay Gould was mentioned - The Mismeasure of Man (1996)
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould
█ The "Hard Problem" refers to the "Hard problem of consciousness" and similar problems around proving or measuring what consciousness and intelligence is
Federation commentary for all instances to consider... but still respect NO and reduce all possibilities until dust settles!... opt-out is not consent AT ALL and often too late or not foolproof ...
█ Signing up for #Bluesky was a mistake. I have gotten so many #spam calls in the past few days.
The sudden spike only makes sense if they're selling the phone number I used for 2FA.
@o76923
https://kitty.social/notes/9pok05pec10yv5uv
█ It's not only the federation that is the issue. The inevitable cloning / copying of this new data access point (people themselves, you and others) to their servers with auto-consent almost, for speed or [insert your whatever corporate reasoning here] and the natural expectation and expectable worry like this built-in.
Other fediverse are not interested in this stuff and certainly not to this level. Totally different big fishes [Facebook, Twitter style stuff I mean common].
Using whatever they can/want without the same spirit of Fediverse like we have now is a big problem (totally different as server and politics)...
The federation is being invaded / diluted out of existence or even education of what's proper as we kinda get overwhelm and inevitably concede positions as it's too costly to manage...
Imagine growing more caringly (people understand what they sign up to in Fedivser) vs. mass and being distracted by mass media mainstream stuff (not just content but effect of big-players in the background).
Like people say 'which server' and 'just join facebook/threads/tiwtter' we also lose smaller recommendations and niches/nuances with those choosing more carefully their community and supporting smaller Fediverse hubs.
It's not too harsh a line and like 'self-trojan horsing' can come to mind no so far later down the line if you accept this. I would be surprised if they started copying straight away and 'collect them all'.
- @freeschool (for fediverse and freedom)
█Similar to "Do not track me" in browsers - they don't have to respect it. It's just you in a box saying something. No control.
So "copy this data of mine" y/n will also be a totally corporate company decision... they control their side - if it was your company you'd do the same unless limited or no business was accepted there... Via a bridge the rules will be quite different... so this is a different question to any kinds of option about it.
Like people willing to make business but will take it easy at first... it's the same thing happening with monetisation and privacy everywhere... Almost people can't help it no matter what they say now...
- @freeschool (for fediverse and freedom)
█ ...all this "nonconsensual data harvesting by proprietary networks straight into Google datacenters" content...
I'm blocking the #bluesky bridge, all instances I care about are blocking the #bluesky bridge, die mad about it. I'll add the domains to nftables too for good measure.
https://todon.eu/@ramonita/111926191886275939
█ "If you don't want to give someone the ability to see and store your data, don't post it publicly online in the first place."
(this is totally not the way and feeding the great giants that want to invade and force people to drink their type of coolaid/fediverse. People like this easily want to give it away and even stop thinking about it.
https://fosstodon.org/@BWPanda/111926266727189845
█"Opt-out is not consent.
Everyone knows this and yet many #Mastodon admins continue to abuse us.
Where are the good guys?"
https://fosstodon.org/@happyborg/111926784690582141
█Dear Ryan: I would appreciate it if you do not bridge my account to Bluesky.
I just wanted to let you know that I opt out.
I already added #nobridge to my bio, and also sent you a DM expressing my desire to opt out of your bridge from #Mastodon to #BlueSky
I publicly and expressly do no consent #BlueSky TOC, Terms of Use, Legal Agreements, nor any other legally binding agreement between them and me in any way whatsoever.
Thank you
Best regards
Gonzalo Nemmi
https://mastodon.sdf.org/@gnemmi/111928143883994546
#QOTO HIDE YOUR PROFILE A BIT MORE TO COMMERCIAL SERVERS NOW...
#QOTO HIDE YOUR PROFILE A BIT MORE TO COMMERCIAL SERVERS NOW
UNTIL THE POLITICS SERVER LEVEL IS CONCLUDED (HAPPENING NOW)
(NOT FULL SOLUTION BUT BETTER UNTIL POLITICS CLEARER)
#Mastodon #Fediverse with less #privacy more #Commercial #BlueSkyBridge Threads #BlueSky
@VamptVo It's not the federation that is the issue. "clone this data of mine to another AP server on demand" is a natural expectation built into federation. But "copy this data of mine to a non-AP company network via a bridge where the rules are different" is a different question, and checking with someone first is reasonable.
The same would apply for auto-reposting Twitter to FB. It's beyond the scope of reasonable expectation to assume "usage implies opt in".
Morning all. Quite a day yesterday, and today so far. I’m obviously taking a beating from everyone who thinks the Bluesky bridge should be opt in. OK.
I want to run one idea by you all. The way the bridge is currently designed, no fediverse profiles or other content are proactively bridged into Bluesky. If someone on Bluesky wants to see or follow someone on the fediverse, they have to manually request it on the bridge. That fediverse user’s posts are then only bridged going forward, and only if someone follows them.
What if, the first time someone on Bluesky requests to follow someone on the fediverse via the bridge, the fediverse user gets prompted, “X from Bluesky wants to follow you. Are you ok with connecting with Bluesky?”, maybe via DM. I assume that would still be considered opt in?
Realistically, most people in the fediverse will never hear about the bridge. Traditional opt in and opt out both generally expect people to proactively find a setting or take some action, often one that only a tiny fraction of people ever learn about. I don’t really care how many people discover or use the bridge, but this kind of just-in-time prompt, only shown when someone wants to follow or interact with them, feels like a useful improvement in that it puts the decision in front of them directly.
Thanks to @kio for the idea. It seems promising; I’m now planning to try it out well before launch. Let me know if you don’t like it.
who's boosting all this "nonconsensual data harvesting by proprietary networks straight into Google datacenters" content into my timeline anyway.
I'm blocking the #bluesky bridge, all instances I care about are blocking the #bluesky bridge, die mad about it. I'll add the domains to nftables too for good measure.
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If you don't want to give someone the ability to see and store your data, don't post it publicly online in the first place.
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#Mastodon #BlueSkyBridge #Privacy #Fediverse #Twitter #Threads #BlueSky
Native #openweb is "permissionless" this is how #ActivityPub works and why it works. Is #bluesky native to the #openweb
This is a "trust" vers "control issue and yes people are pushing #closedweb thinking and code, we need to think this through better.
Opt-out is not consent.
Everyone knows this and yet many #Mastodon admins continue to abuse us.
Where are the good guys?
So amidst the #bluesky bridge "drama", it might be insightful to read one of ActivityPub's authors (@evanprodromou, tagged for politeness) takes on the whole thing (incl the heated discussion around it):
https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/835#issuecomment-1942704597
> The point of the fediverse is to connect with others, with full control and safety. It's for making connections between networks of different sizes and implementations.
I say, bc at some point, it might matter that this isn't quite the system you want.
Can someone from the #fedipact #smallfedi community make a list of instances that also do not want to be bridged to #bluesky #bridgyfed and any of the other projects that are bridged #zot #hubzilla #streams #nostr ? #Mastodon #Fediverse
@snarfed.org Dear Ryan: I would appreciate it if you do not bridge my account to Bluesky.
I just wanted to let you know that I opt out.
I already added #nobridge to my bio, and also sent you a DM expressing my desire to opt out of your bridge from #Mastodon to #BlueSky
I publicly and expressly do no consent #BlueSky TOC, Terms of Use, Legal Agremments, nor any other legally binding agreement between them and me in any way whatsoever.
Thank you
Best regards
Gonzalo Nemmi
And there was a lot of ignorance about how the fediverse actually works (i.e. most didn't know that their posts are already federated beyond Mastodon).
Hi @freemo, questions about dealing with federation from more commercial entities:
█Can it be possible to continue as it is now and then opt-in from preferences? To switch on per user each as the main thing to do with federating with BlueSky and Thread.net.
Perhaps more will come but these 2 for now since they are especially commercial / less like Mastodon.
An all or nothing switch, started "off" first to continue without being embedded / scraped, and then each user decides to change, not not.
So before more happens with more commercial versions of Mastodon etc (essentially making for hybrid Fediverse perhaps), I would le want to see if those 2 things were possible?
#Fediverse #Corporate #Danger
#Takeovers #Greed #mCapitalsm
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NOTES / JUST FOR REFERENCE
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█BlueSky (social network) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluesky_(social_network)
█Threads (social network)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threads_(social_network)
Who owns Google or YouTube?... Can you name anyone related to Google?....... Anyone? Did you ever think why you don't know anything about that?...
Who owns Google or YouTube?....
Can you name anyone related to Google or YouTube?.......
Anybody at all?
Did you ever think why you don't know anything about that?...
So I think it's interesting to reflect that. AND a big blind spot of people (especially if you are pro or against google).
Bashing Mark Zuckerberg for Facebook
is one thing but somehow Google
got away with things...
I'll mention some info as potential answers below of those related, not as hate but just being aware who's behind most of it.
Larry Page... CEO before 2015
Sundar Pichai... CEO of 2015+
Sundar Pichai also became the CEO of Alphabet (parent company) 2019+
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google
So not having the same attention for Google is something to check in ourselves if we have feeling either way.
#Fediverse vs Google / YouTube #Capitalism
Why not money? 💰 💳
Mike Adams (Health Ranger) explains why not money. And also how evil is relative to money.
If this video is not clear, please let me know how, as it seems nail is hit on the head. But I will take 2nd opinions.
Without communication or real talk, future interactions are doomed!...
If you have to ask more than 5 times regularly for the same thing, and after explaining it to the person, if the trend continues, find someone else. And no need make big song or dance. Silently is ok.
(Without communication or real talk, future interactions are doomed!)
Not directed to any existing chats -
all is quite good at the moment. Thanks!
How fast you are when there something in it for you! (It's about getting better right and less excuses?)...
(my response to "I'm busy" or other reasons not sure working with strangers / the world)
It's amazing how fast a person is online when it's something I or others are doing for you!
This comment is not made negatively - I'm glad for very real reasons but most is laziness or excuses for not wanting to explore the unknown. I measure this by how fast people are (sorry you can't hide this!) and how online and not really busy they are even with concessions about that!)
This is just to show, similar to picture, that actually you do have time, you do squeeze things in and you do see the point... once you have the will or incentive carrot. But sometimes more logic and love needs to be used... almost for halloing worldwide peace to happen (as general as that sounds it comes from smaller working together).
So dear friend or potential friends...
Let all that jazz about being busy be seen as simply a carrot thing... and it's not that I knock that for yourself but the bar can be a bit too low where ONLY you do things for carrots and not when I or others ask for something and just generally giving freely to the universe is not seen as credible or why as reason (which I hope I provide now).
The picture is not to insult you but to say that if you act like an animal (only via carrot) then that is what we become.
Somewhat in crapitalism we have to train ourselves out of capitalism and into the Fediverse as real alternative!
for everything!
(The Fediverse ways of sharin, ethics and communication basically)
Don't let anything get in the way of progress (increment please) and rather than blocking just start / continue in small amounts...
Often people assume they have to do all of it now or do the same like me. Noooo.... Just starting is good enough and believing in people and then measuring on what really happens rather than aesthtics.
Thanks overall
Isn't it about being more real and getting better / balancing everyone?
It's about changing / opening our minds...
I give people time and I thnk that's the difference to others online who really don't have or give time and give up on people really easy... (don't mean to be competitive, no put-downs, just I more dedicate time to others and weave us together).
So you don't even have to read any of this because EVERYTHING needs time + communication and without that a lot is broken and even less human even if it's for good...
Just follow and put notifications on to TEST MY FEED.... the rest below is just over-info for most poeple.
Open Learning School or Freedom University...
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A lot you might be at length and depth, but if you're easy about it, you can take the best and even take me along to understand life with others!
To learn and do everything practically! (this is a practical living (and gets stuff done as much as we can).
Fan of Fediverse!
Quick Look - peace-loving work / services:
█ Mini-Podcast (few mins each, examples below)
█ Picture remixes / video remixes
█ Lessons without being too 'teacher' about it. Teacher has teeth for eliminating doubt.
█ Food for thought as gentle soul also.
█ Unique ideas - often impossible for professionals (they are burdened by financial repsonsibility and therefore associational risk in saying things). I'm more diverse and occasionally direct (with respect, though I don't shy away from reminding people).
█ Not too embarrassing to say "I don't know" but can still chase things.
█ More responsive than casual users usually because people think having 'job' is enough in life. I say it's not! And even faimily is of no use if it's only getting worse (in everything!).
Podcast Examples:
1. Gary Ackerman's thoughts on AI
https://qoto.org/@freeschool/111867522723922385
2. The Little Prince book
https://qoto.org/@freeschool/111845561003150354
3. Fantasy genre from a fan's perspective
https://qoto.org/@freeschool/111845709367492677
I help people create audio / edit educational audio / podcast / music / visual short videos / transcript text
+ I like to add a bit humour while being quite strict in my own politics (opinions) but open / inviting for others to tell me what I should do if they can explain more than just a short comment (I don't mind it's healthy for me at least if you have logic and can stand yourself explaining).
FreeSchool is about Learning towards Freedom (which is about Uniting everyone slowly, even "1 by 1"... Easy with The Fediverse!
Not virtue signalling here only, but practise of EVERYTHING as we go. Judged by getting in contact (many have) and having courage to communicate (or seeking it from others is ok, EVERYONE needs a bit of courage or hand-holding to make big personal changes). Who else is there for example if family doesn't understand?
Learning and watching can be good and staying out of people's way, BUT better is doing something every day and helping each other with some tough decisions / lessons... and then being bold enough to do them. 1... 2... 3 that is all that's needed.
Let my posts do most of the talking.
Put me on notification (click bell that appears after follow ia accepted) and if it's not interesting switch off after and tick me off the list of potential people to follow daily!
Media version of my posts here... open link for later... good for visual scrolling version and judge me on that I don't mind...
https://qoto.org/@freeschool/media
I'm usually impressed with my media gallery as I work on posts a lot usually or hit the "Aha!" moments and capture it (other people may forget it for years, not me!).
Freedom is about *making it work together* better like using #Mastodon on the #Fediverse daily for better platforms with more #bestpractices and 'best' people to help us which I kind of collect here and
when it's #1 comment!
I am measurably better because I reply and stick to everything to the end(!)
No cancelling friendship suddenly without saying why or being moody!
Freedom is to Learn, Respect and Love eventually and ️to Unite!
Practically it's also like Tetris - add yourself to the puzzle and watch it all happen...
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talk more on Mastodon and the Fediverse and puzzle it all out using better ways to less use the other bad commercial / extractive people...
L£$$ of the less caring people like the ggl's / ytb / gmail / mainstream communication points etc who are offering lots of space 'free' and it's not free of peace there.
We GIVE to real people (TIME NOT JUST MONEY).
There's no buy-in solution - we have to make it with selotape or whatever we have - it's not shameful to bring whatever you have.
FreeSchool is terminology put together from many good things from past (coined in 1950's/60's. I / we become it eventually through being.
It's a movement for Freedom via Learning it all (learning self included and less active stuff) and doing the learning *together* --> https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeschool.
I encourage you warmly to participate with me as a I have time and then spiral out naturally to others (we are part of humanity and so naturally a sort of evangelism or ecological pyramid of life as we choose to spread lesser suffering while accepting consuming is part of it).
Less-commercial in orientation (in everything) and happy to think / work for free.
Naturally you will hesitate if someone is sure of themself or ok standing on shoulders what we copy do the best from humbly but not too sterile either.
Based on just emotions ruins almost everything, which seems very common - very ungraceful - so don't disconnect... do it gracefully at least!
A "school" of thought is here you can interact / ask and make best together as free/low cost as possible.
Even a bad answer you can take best from (of course I won't know all your situation when I suggest something but I don't need to answer 100% - you also need to help me!).
Leave perfectionism, we are all imperfect humans! Let's do it... Choose something ANYTHING and keep the thoughts rolling together...!
All content under the Creative Commons license CC-BY-SA-NC. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/?ref=chooser-v1 Thereby, ideally, only using tools and resources that are #FLOSS #OpenSource. #nobot