I guess the only question I have is whether the educational effect of a stop like this is zero or something less than zero. I'm all for scooter safety, but like anyone else who spends any time on the street here, I see a whole lot of drivers -- the car and truck kind -- who treat stop signs as a suggestion they're free to ignore. (Yes, cyclists too, but let's tilt at one windmill at a time.)
https://fb.watch/izFTUBjE0s/ #berkeley #micromobility #mobility

@danbrekke I got hit with a hefty fine for running a red on my bike in Berkeley once. I was angry, but I don't run red lights anymore, much to the exasperation of whoever I'm riding with. IMO the spectacle of a traffic disruption shows everyone the rules are actually being enforced, which is fine with me if they're being enforced equally.

@kueda @danbrekke for whatever it’s worth, there is at least some evidence that women on bikes are hit by trucks in intersections more often than men because men are more likely to ride through a red light, getting ahead of trucks before they turn. Running red lights may be a safety measure for cyclists. https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/why-women-seem-to-be-more-vulnerable-around-traffic-blackspots-in-london-10341420.html

@marcprecipice @kueda Interesting piece.

@danbrekke @kueda yeah, it's a tough topic. To be clear, I'm not saying that's why cyclists run red lights today (it's probably more keeping momentum + impatience). But, separating modes of travel (like leading pedestrian intervals: https://highways.dot.gov/safety/proven-safety-countermeasures/leading-pedestrian-interval) really seems to help a ton. More on the general topic: https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2023/01/is-cycling-safe-in-many-cases-the-answer-is-no/