never in all my years have i seen actual non-anecdotal or marketing-driven evidence that developer experience has any genuine impact on user experience

happy to be corrected though

@jgg lot's of terrible user experiences in the wild. That's the baseline which DX pushers claim to be improving

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It's a hard problem. A ton of features that must be available at the same time. And intelligent features are real tricky; if the language is not designed for them, you can't get very far.

Let them try. If they are successful, we all win. If they fail, it's their loss.

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