So, here's the thing.

I'm a 20+ year web dev that has used everything under the sun, and where do I land?

Ha, plain ole flat-file HTML, CSS, and Javascript are still the best. And PHP is still rock solid on the backend.

A lot of the popular frameworks are just jobs gatekeeping the kind of people they want to work for them.

Sites should be getting
less complicated to build and maintain.

@Are0h This. A lot. I'm still stunned at how much scaffolding other dynamic solutions need. PHP is literally just "some script run on the server that outputs a working HTML page when someone browses to it". Try to learn anything else and you have to basically write your own web server to handle routes and crud.

@ocdtrekkie @Are0h except php has its own huge bag of worms. Want to use MySQL? Which one of the 8 apis do you use, 7 of which have horrible bugs and issues? :P

@aurorapenguin @Are0h They've retired a lot of the older ones and bad practices. It's also not really a problem specific to PHP. PHP has a bad reputation because it's so easy to start programming with it that a lot of PHP software is not well-engineered because a lot of beginners use it.

@ocdtrekkie @aurorapenguin @Are0h

Speaking as someone diving back into C++: the problem with old architectures is nothing is ever really retired.

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