Remember kids, the most carbon-neutral tech product is the one you already own.

@TimWardCam @corbin

Yep. Driving fewer than 8K miles per year, I'm not going to buy an electric car anytime soon: the carbon debt of its manufacture wouldn't be paid off before it was substantially obsolete again.

Frankly I'm hoping never to buy a car again. The 20th century was fun, but it's over.

@pieist @corbin I don't drive anything like that much. But at already twenty years old I'm not sure how much longer the car is going to last.

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@TimWardCam @corbin Yeah, I overstated it quite a bit myself. Last new car I bought was in 2012. I put 9K miles on it over the next _three_ years. I ended up trading it back to the dealer for a 7 year old used model that was of more practical use for a homeowner. Actually got cash back. I'm not putting more than a couple of thousand miles a year on that either. I bicycle and I take light rail. (And ride a motorcycle, but mostly for fun.)

@pieist @corbin Local trips are almost all by bicycle, I don't use the car most weeks, and sometimes not for a couple of months. But with covid ruling out flying we're driving our own car more for holidays than we used to.

@TimWardCam @corbin At least in the UK you have the option of taking trains; at something like one-fourth of the carbon impact of flying. Most places in the US it's not really practical or even possible. I did have business in the San Francisco Bay area a few months ago and was able to go by rail. Sleeper car for COVID reasons, so not exactly cheap.

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