"Stop going on about this RSS nonsense, you're confusing everybody. Just talk about how important it is for podcasting to remain an open ecosystem accessible to everyone on any device."
Uh, RSS is *exactly why* podcasting remains an open and free (libre) pillar of the web.
It's not a quirk. It's not an accident. It's exactly why podcasting exists as we know it today. And it's exactly why many of us lament the siege of non-RSS-based exclusive shows attempting to erode the medium.
@Tierno158 I want to boost this so much! And yet it lacks an alt tag for image description. :(
Still, great stuff! Wish I could boost it!
@jaredwhite @palafo @aelman @davew @davidtoddmccarty
What’s weird is that I’ve been using @overcastfm for so long, I couldn’t even remember where the Apple podcast directory was. When I went to look for it, it doesn’t seem to exist anymore! Apparently now it’s only visible within their app, not as a webpage? Although a bunch of other apps, including the one I use, apparently consume it somehow. Unless I’m just missing something, always possible, that is another strike against Apple for taking the open podcast directory off of the open web.
@aelman @pwinn @palafo @davidtoddmccarty @jaredwhite
Why it's so important to get clear on what podcasting is.
Because podcasting is like the web. And we're fighting for something much bigger than podcasting, something which *includes* podcasting, the ownership of the web itself.
Google has been acting like the owner of the web for a few years.
This is being covered up by the tech industry, but it is a fact and a public issue of the most importance.
The web belongs to no one.
Period.
@aelman @palafo @davidtoddmccarty @jaredwhite @davew right, they don’t know, which is why it’s important to tell them.
This thread is ludicrous. Dave is right.
@jamescridland @jaredwhite There *is* a difference between Rogan and other shows, though: Rogan can only be played using Spotify, not a podcast player, while other shows, being podcasts, can be played in any podcast player.
That both are on-demand audio shows makes them both "on-demand audio shows," so they do have much in common. But the one that can only be played using Spotify isn't a podcast. Pretty simple.
@aelman @palafo @davidtoddmccarty @jaredwhite @davew
Please also note that I am not attempting to accost random non-savvy friends who don’t know better, but am instead responding to someone whose bio describes him as an editor for the New York Times. If a person I don’t know walks down the street talking about the “Joe Rogan podcast,” I feel no need or desire to correct them. If I see that phrase in America’s paper of record, I wonder if everything else in the paper is as poorly informed.
@aelman @palafo @davidtoddmccarty @jaredwhite
@davew is in this thread and co-invented podcasting. I wonder if he thinks the word should be used to describe DRMed data locked into a single proprietary client. Does his word matter more or less than the two companies attempting to profit from redefining it?
@aelman @palafo @davidtoddmccarty @jaredwhite
I’m sorry, are you arguing that the New York Times should base it’s editorial choices about technical products on the words non-technical average people use? The companies that market things using bad labels win if they convince enough non-savvy people?
Amazing and sad.
@palafo @davidtoddmccarty @jaredwhite Mr. LaForge: An editor for the New York Times that calls it "language policing" when two commercial companies attempt to co-opt a label that has meant one thing since 2005, and use it for something different, deliberating blurring the line between them.
It's not language policing, it's you failing to recognize your own lack of resistance to nefarious corporate marketing, and perpetuating that misinformation as a result.
When the CEO of IAB describes his worst fear, and it sounds wonderful to you, I guess that makes you an "extremist."
Join me, fellow "extremists," as we insist on basic privacy and "cripple the advertising industry and eliminate it" in the process!
Reading the full script, I note that he calls out Apple as an "enemy from within," so welcome to the party, Apple. Let's take them down!
I was not aware before this week that Apple, like Spotify, makes on-demand audio shows available to subscribers without making them available as podcasts, and yet audaciously calls them “Apple Podcast Subscriptions.” This is bad behavior, antithetical to the spirit of podcasting, and Apple should know better.
I learned about it via Hacker News from Matt Basta: https://basta.substack.com/p/the-absolute-audacity-of-apple-podcasts
I don’t use the Apple Podcasts app, because @overcastfm is really great, and most of the Apple’s podcast-related web pages seem to be focused on the usual podcast stuff, same as they have been since 2005 or so. Little did I know that things changed in 2021! That is apparently when they launched this:
https://podcasters.apple.com/878-subscriptions
Horrible!
I get the appeal of the pitch for podcasters. If you have an existing podcast and are tired of paying $5/month or more to host the audio files, you might hear about “Apple Podcasts Subscriptions” and see that they charge only $20/year, and you aren’t required to charge for a subscription. It certainly isn’t clear on the publicly-available pages I’ve seen that this is going to break your podcast, making it no longer freely available everywhere! Instead, even if your show is free, it will be encrypted with DRM and there will be no feed for clients not owned by Apple. They have many lawyers, so it’s probable that this disclosure is buried somewhere in the fine print as you sign up, but it’s still bad behavior.
A podcast is on-demand audio available in any podcast client via a syndication feed. Usually this means MP3 files via RSS, but M4A files via Atom would still fit the description. It’s possible to offer subscriptions to podcasts, and even charge for them. Even on Apple’s own list of “Podcast hosting providers” they list four providers that do so, but the normal way to handle that involves either HTTP Basic Authentication or tokens in the Feed URL, *not* DRM and proprietary clients.
https://podcasters.apple.com/partner-search
Once you take away the feed and lock down consumption to only your apps, you’re not producing a podcast anymore. You’re producing a proprietary on-demand audio show. That Spotify and Apple use the word “Podcast” in their product descriptions is deceptive, but co-opting popular labels is somewhat common, and reasonably-aware people should be able to see through that.
I understand the appeal of this for Spotify and Apple, too. They can both say, “using our app, you can listen to any podcast ever made anywhere, PLUS a bunch of shows exclusive to us!” But of course, Spotify’s exclusives can’t be listened to in Apple Podcasts, and “Apple Podcasts Subscriptions” can’t be listened to in Spotify, because they’re not actually podcasts at that point. It’s a short-sighted approach with lasting damage.
Shame on Apple for playing this losing game.
My daughter texted me urgently today, asking for help in art class. As someone who attended school before the advent of cell phones, this entire concept threatens to derail me, but I'll focus for her sake. She wants examples of abstract art, and wants me to help, and I quote, "Using your uhm ai art thing."
I happen to have the Wombo.ai Dream app installed on my phone, and haven't used it very much, so I started there. That app heavily leans into models trained in different styles, one of which is "Abstract," so it seemed like a good bet. For the first prompt, I supplied an input image, which I said should heavily influence the result. Avid fans of anime might guess from the result that the image was fan art from "Assassination Classroom," which was also the text prompt. For the rest I supplied no starting image, using only text prompts to steer things. Unfortunately, I didn't keep notes at the time, and worse, I foolishly didn't "Finalize" any of the results, since I was just looking for samples to influence my daughter's art on paper. So I don't remember what words I used for the other three examples, my favorites of the eight I generated for her.
If I can generate image description alt text for abstract art, it should be easy for anyone to generate image descriptions for anything.
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