Fedi fwens (whoops I guess that's a racism now) what are you reading right now? We should do a neat book club style exchange of titles and ideas and stuff.

Yes, shitposting is encouraged but I really do want to talk about books and stuff.

@MisterRogersSnapped Jung - Modern Man in Search of a Soul

Gives a snapshot of his main themes in his ~middle period, so you get more of a feel for his method than his earlier, more empirical work and his later, more "finished" perspectives.

Packs quite a punch too, don't think I've read many books which provoke the same intensity of vertigo and soul-searching. Always cuts close to the bone.

@skells @MisterRogersSnapped I'm going to be super annoying, but why would you read Jung instead of modern psychology?
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I think a good question would be "Among books considered "modern psychology" what would you recommend? If we can get a baseline of where we each are at we can better start a conversation."

Honestly I am not a huge fan of psychology as a medical premise and a great deal of it feels like cocaine and pseudoscience but it's interesting and dark enough to catch my attention.
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@MisterRogersSnapped @SneedsterSpeedster "Thinking, Fast and Slow" has very rigourous science behind it.

There's a view today that something can't be a science without quantitative methods - the reality is that formulae are often used to obfuscate bullshit. Search "replication crisis."

A careful reading of Jung shows that he was a rigorous thinker. His investigations produced questionable and disturbing results - it's a rare person who can look those results in the eye and integrate them into their life.

His is a subjective opinion and has its idiosyncrasies - as he is first to attest. That no one has really followed upon his heels with the same insight is a great shame. You only get 5 or 6 of his quality in a century though, perhaps it's to be expected.

Girard is very good, more anthropology than psychology but he is as unflinching and rigourous as Jung; perhaps without his intuitive genius.

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