In 1 month, 1 in 1000 Scots died post vaccination.
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@Prodigal source?

@skells If you look really closely at the blue background, it is Public Health Scotland.

@Prodigal I want my fucking spreadsheet dickhead

@skells

Not with those manners, lol.

You can get it from Public Health Scotland yourself.

See attached.
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@skells LOL, fine.

For the sake of anyone following this thread.

Am I not magnanimous?
deaths-within-28-days-of-vaccination.xlsx

@skells


@oxblood

Here is a screenshot and the Excel file of the data. From Public Health Scotland.

CC: @11112011
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deaths-within-28-days-of-vaccination.xlsx

@Prodigal @oxblood @skells why are u tagging me in dis?

@11112011 @oxblood @skells

Because you liked/starred the comments of oxblood and pissdick earlier when replying to my Covid vax posts.

@Prodigal @oxblood @skells as i recall it ox told u old ppl die right?

@11112011

Yeah, but it wasn't comparing apples to apples to apples comparison.

Anyways, thought you might care about the data. Guess not.



@oxblood @skells

@Prodigal @11112011 @oxblood

at first glance doesn't matter if you measure from time of vaccination or start of the month, the rate of old people dying probably won't change.

what would be of concern is if there's a spike of deaths after the vaccine which doesn't chime with the base rate...

@skells @11112011 @oxblood

That is correct, that is a proper comparison.

i.e.

Mentioning how many people died from all causes vs mentioning people who died 28 days after a vax is comparing apples to oranges - they are both sweet fruits, but not the same type of fruit.

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A proper apples to apples comparison would be:

If vaccine A and vaccine B both were part of a national campaign, which vaccine has higher reported cases of the vaccine being related to the death of the individual shortly after their vaccination - say 28 days.

With that logic - Covid vaxx casualty numbers are quite high.

@Prodigal @11112011 @oxblood

from their full report:

Between 8 December 2020 and 11 June 2021, a total of 5,522 people died within 28 days of
receiving a COVID-19 vaccine in Scotland (number of days between vaccine and death is
0-27, where 0 is the day of vaccination, all age groups). A breakdown of these deaths by day
and vaccine type is available in the spreadsheet provided along with this report. Using the
5-year average monthly death rate (by age band and gender) from 2015 to 2019 for
comparison, 8,718 deaths would have been expected among the vaccinated population
within 28 days of receiving their COVID-19 vaccination. This means the observed number of
deaths is lower than expected compared with mortality rates for the same time period in
previous years (dose 1 observed/expected ratio:0.66, 95%CI= 0.64 to 0.69; dose 2
observed/expected ratio: 0.59, 95%CI=0.57 to 0.62).

@skells

That's pretty spurious because:

1) There were no covid vaxxes from 2015 to 2019 and

2) As far as know, Scots had lockdown restrictions too (so other causes of death such as motor accidents, flu etc were mitigated by lockdowns) from Dec 2020 to June 2021, whereas this was not the case in 2015-2019.

I'm surprised they didn't catch that.



@11112011 @oxblood

@Prodigal @11112011 @oxblood

that's a good point actually

@skells

Statistics don't lie; statisticians always do.

@11112011 @oxblood

@Prodigal @11112011 @oxblood

"Lies, damned lies and statistics"

To be honest I've yet to see anything other than huge error bars. Enough for me not to get vaxxed, not enough for me to properly evidence.

The suppression of alternative treatments (prophylaxis and early treatment, particularly ivermectin) is where I start getting cynical.

@skells @Prodigal @11112011 @oxblood
it's very easy to bullshit with statistics yes
once you learn a small amount about it you'll be forever mad that people don't include stdevs with averages.