@skells That's a big misrepresentation of... everything from the conversation. One, the tempo-upping you mentioned was regarding Taiwan, which is of no strategic interest to Russia, whereas I'm describing Germany making the worst-case decision immediately when faced with de-industrialization, based on the west's understanding of Russian geopol. Nor did I say they were invading Poland next year, I said "a next year" which I probably should have worded "a coming year". I did my best to couch it in "worst case" and should have left in the "god forbid", but seriously I'm not here to jerk you around, you don't have to play gotchas.
@skells I'm just fascinated that Germany didn't appease Russia before the pipes were blown, in that time while the pipelines were shut off. It spoke in a very "this is Kennedy speaking a language with Kruschev the likes the world has never seen" way to me, but...

I am a retard, so take what I say lightly.
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@7 Scholz and the Greens are very much on the US side of this, only Scholz's sensitivity to how the Germans feel about militarism has kept him fairly doveish.

which also brings in Macron who, lip service aside, has been true to the French's avowed foreign policy of a multipolar world.

the guys a wanker, not least for his vaccine comments, but I've grudgingly given him credit for intermittent attempts at a peacemaker role

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