skells @skells@social.cleverlibre.org

i wonder what taser chad is up to these days

@11112011 uh ok didn't even know there was drama

@11112011 but Zelensky will abandon his post

@zeropolitics it's nice to know what the agency thinks but can you limit your posts?

spooking up the timeline

@Sneaky @adam @Johncdvorak i think you're looking at it the wrong way round

if, today, John and Adam say "no more PayPal; only bitcoin, cash or cheque will be accepted" then they could, at guess, drop a third to a half of all their payments

I was 100% with you at first but the more I think about it, the more petulant it seems to kick off about a stern email for more donations/consideration from a product which is essentially distributed for free

@Sneaky @adam @Johncdvorak
sorry @ringo didn't mean to knock you out there

@Sneaky @adam @Johncdvorak "customers"? only 3% of listeners donate, mainly because John pushes

if the people who donate had principles of the privacy they wouldn't use PayPal full stop, the issue is they cancelled their donations on a headline and hurt the show without thinking about the consequences

if it was Spotify or whatever, who cares, they just above ads down your throat if you stop paying, V4V doesn't have that luxury

@Sneaky @adam @Johncdvorak it's hypocritical, I agree, but I don't see how you get around the situation

if a producer takes issue the decent thing would have been to switch to another form of donation - but as being a producer is entirely voluntary what options do you have but to turn the screws a little if people don't bother

@Moon they speak Spanish

@Sneaky @adam @Johncdvorak

John and Adam don't have control over how people donate, with V4V you've got to make it easy for people to do so or they simply won't

PayPal have been de-platforming various people for some time now, so it's a little disingenuous of John to paper over "momentary" decisions by higher ups but it's hard to find fault with the email itself

copy is copy, after all

@11112011 @dave what I've been saying