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@11112011 tv sucks these days

@11112011 @7 bro 1945 called they want their vinyls back

@7 why can't China, Russia or anyone else for that matter make interesting deals?

I don't see why China and Strait of Malacca and Pakistan and and and and has anything to do with a general dissatisfaction with US hegemony and the propensity for people to work things out amongst themselves when left to their own devices

your argument seems to rely on inertia and past US hegemonic status sprinkled with a little niche tactical Indo-Sino foreplay

@7 lost the knack of schizo-posting intelligibly so good luck with parsing that

@7 the accent makes all the difference

@7 I don't see your reasoning

nothing has really changed post-SMO, the post-Cold War world works as it is and countries such as India, Turkey, Suadia Arabia etc. are just gonna sit quietly while the Chinese gobble up the 'stans because they support Russia in their war in Ukraine? Why? because Chinese people don't like Russians?

I see why the US might like such a turn of events but it appears to assign no sense of agency to anyone other than China who want to ditch Eurasian integration because the stans are tasty?

I think most people pushing for a multi-polar world seems to be more of a return to form for human kind, particularly when the only people who lose are neocons, there's no reason why the US has to lose on this any more than the rest

if anything it's Europe that get's fucked by the multi-polar world because we'll have to compete without Uncle Sam's finger on the scales

@7 I don't see why China would come for the border stans when *see post above*

@7 pre-invasion you see ~petty mutual testing of boundaries and general shenanigans

post-invasion, Russia has upped the tempo; China wants Taiwan? time to get moving. Western sanctions of limited effect and boomeranging? Dollar reserves looking shaky. Saudi's starting to sell oil in Yuan? Someone's window shopping for a new Uniform Daddy.

If there was a time to break away from the US and establish a multi-polar order it's probably now or never, and as China isn't yet big enough to be the hegemon, simply because the US is still strong.

The KISS strategy is to continue Eurasian integration, stick together and keep the global south on-side. Otherwise the US will ply divide and conquer and pick up the pieces once again.

To conclude, pre-SMO elbowing is way down on the priority list now the game's afoot

@11112011 technicals never lie

gave up meat for lent and now I just eat my bodyweight in sugar every time my discipline gets soft

@7 not sure on the timeline of the *googles CSTO* thing, Russo-Sino tensions being what they are, don't you think the calculus has changed post-SMO/Slavic Tango?

@solidsanek spreadsheets in space got kinky huh

@7 no, genuine question, how do you think the global south would react?

@7 how do you think the rest of the global south would react to China placing such pressure on Russia?

@7 Stalin and Churchill would like a word

@sim @Piss_Ant oh wow these guys were out there