#JordanPeterson (and so many others): if this materialistic reality is all there is, how can you build #morality?

Let's assume there's an afterlife. You build morality down here to grant a good outcome after we're dead, right?

Yes.

What is a “good outcome” beyond the material world?

Well, there is salvation or condemnation, bliss or torture — heaven or hell, if you will. You surely prefer we all go to heaven, don't you?

Sure. Can we summarise that prospect as “suffering vs bliss”?

OK, you could put it that way.

And we want to avoid hell because… suffering is bad, right? Is #suffering bad?

Sure it is. That's self-evident.

Alright, we agree. Then, why can't we make _the avoidance of suffering_ (or the pursuit of bliss, or a combination of those two), the cornerstone of #ethics _in this life, right now_? Can't you see there's enough of a foundation to distinguish between “good” and “evil” in this plane of existence already, without the need to project consequences into a hypothetical non-materialistic reality? I'm not asking you to dispense with your supernatural world, I'm just saying you can't claim any more that it's impossible to have ethics without a “superior being” or an afterlife, because at the root, you are guided by the same principle as us, the same axiom (“suffering = bad”).