@rochelimit
Is it just us or are there literally no #ethical jobs in #tech, and by extension, society?
@travis
Maybe for kids the clearnet/surveillance is okay. When they turn 18 they can use I2P/Tor.
The danger w any surveillance is if its centralised, (eg. Cloudflare, Amazon, CAGFAM ). This gives the megacorps an extreme advantage in all marketplaces. If we are going to watch over everything our kids do then that needs to be done somewhat locally and not persist. The security model would need to support that.
At any time, parents can ask to see any data?
@travis
The sad thing about the online sphere today is that it can do damage silently. Subliminally, the kids might not even remember fully where they get info from. It may take a long time to negate. Of course clearnet, and fakeStreamMedia are to blame for a lot of stuff already, but at least we can (generally speaking) see it. There is some sense in having an only-clearnet policy for under 18s.
@dsfgs @travis @icedquinn @NEETzsche @rochelimit@mastodon.technology
We need to teach people how to find and verify information, this oddly involves more work than just doing a search but reading between the lines and comprehending information.
yeah. it's gone downhill. classical stuff talks about the trivium (related podcast http://www.triviumeducation.com/ ) which is the process of identifying symbols (grammar), resolving conflicts (logic) and packaging the resolved packet in to a derivable work (rhetoric)
now it's primarily about trusting experts.
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@NEETzsche @dsfgs @icedquinn @rochelimit@mastodon.technology @travis
Well yeah, the idea would be to try andj see both view points.
One of my OY assignments years ago was to compare Hydrogen, Biofuel and Electric to power cars, using evidnce for / against each from the course materials.
my conclusion was that neither are perfect but some are better than others depending on say if you are taking short / long journeys for example.
Electric cars are apparently going to solve problems, those arguments make no mention of getting Lithium from the ground to the factory and the environmental impact of doing that.
So much for trusting the experts, when they give a very biased argument.
@icedquinn @dsfgs @NEETzsche @rochelimit@mastodon.technology @travis
Sounds about right,
@icedquinn @dsfgs @NEETzsche @rochelimit@mastodon.technology @travis
This is the issue with filtering, for most cases it works in some cases it gets in the way of doing course work.
it may be they don't want to promote the use of drugs,
Of course we need to understand vocabulary here
Drugs
medication
Narcotics
All off which are drugs of some sort of another just the word used depends on how or the legal status. it gets confusing between different countries too.
>Normalize critical thinking and express it as a virtue in public schools
>Everyone critically dismantles all virtues, Christianity dies, and the world becomes a dystopian hellscape
who could have predicted this
They have these "critical thinking" classes in a lot of universities these days that literally just tell you to trust sources that are official and reject ones that aren't.
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