Isn't it kinda weird that #Mastodon gets described as 'left-leaning' because we handle more strickt rules and don't tolerate things like bullying.. It could be me but I perceive this as 'normal'.
I mean you don't call people all kinds of names in a conversation on the street or in the store right? Even if you don't agree🤔
Somehow it feels the (online) standards for treating each other have declined so much over the past few years 
Let them talk, we are a loving and happy community!
@stux Standards in society have changed in the UK to the people where people abuse others with impunity.
In the UK we seem to have the idea that we sholld not criminalise children as it affects their future.
At one time, actions had consequences you were taught that, in the hope that one day you would think before doing / saying something you may regret.
That abuseis now part of the offline and online world, with the same zero consequences.
I think here we have a chance to at least take back OUR rights from the abusers / bullies. Something that is very much needed and welcome.
Also if bad behaviour is attention seeking giving people attention is going to encourage them further.
So on here, someone posts something bad, abusive we respond by blocking / muting, there is an old saying from early internet
"Don't feed the trolls"
By posting abuse, you seek a response, so you can troll back, by blocking you I give you a response but not the response you want.
Of course some abuse warrants further action report to admins and even involving the authorities, but that gets more complex.
Sure, but they still need to learn consequences. Otherwsie you teach them that certain things are fine.
Look at everyones invited, Under 18s committing rape / sexual assault. surely there are lines that get crossed where action HAS to be taken.
https://www.everyonesinvited.uk/
Victims are sick of it.
According to the panorama programme one girl was raped, the person responsible was jailed (well youth jail) then ALLOWED back in to the school when the victim was still there
Another example from the website is that they didn't want to take a prefect badge away from a YP who committed sexual assault as it would affect his future.
Thankfully we have moved on from the first example BUT it this is still happening.
Not sure if can keep blaming the internet, end of the day it is the parents job to parent their kids not the job of the Internet.
On a side topic, interesting report on the BBC I think suggesting that this economic crisis is impacting kids pester power, so parents are having to say NO.
Indeed, my argument those teachers who make excuses like this in effect condone child rape / sex assault should be on the sex offenders register,.
Would make em think twice.
Child safeguarding is paramount so add said individual who committed crime to the sex offenders register, would be a major wake up call having,for the rest of your life disclose your offence committed at 15/16 +
There is some odd policy to remove crime records at 18, this has to be an exception due to back ground checks.
This is fine in some cases, but not in the case of sexual or violent offences.
@zleap @BabsSheKing @stux I think we almost need a statuette of limitations equivalent of some crimes in the UK.
If you do a mistor meaner crime in the UK it should absolutely impact your future. But it must have limits. For example, if you shoplift of your own decision as a teenager and never do it again, why should it stop you doing certain careers? The rehabilitation of offenders act suggests it shouldn't.
@rwlpalmer @zleap @stux Agree.
It's funny how the same rules don't apply to the 1%.
I agree on shoplifting but when it comes to nife crime and sex offences thatis a different ball game
With everyone's invited disclosures it was people seeming to be getting away with sexual ssualt , harassment etc
The site would not exist if people got away with it
what is worrying is the number of U primary schools listed, this is 4 - 11 year olds
@zleap @BabsSheKing @stux 100% agree.
Some crimes should never be ignored, especially in specific industries.
@zleap @BabsSheKing @rwlpalmer @stux
Having worked with & in youth offending and social services, the phrase "behaviour is communication" is accurate
Most kids who commit crime, are not having basic needs met. Offending rose sharply 5 years after scrapping Sure Start in the UK Combine that with shocking mental health. access, changing the definition of poverty to reduce numbers etc & there are consequences.
We don't need harsher punishment, we need to invest in raising healthy & happy kids
@yarnhobbit @BabsSheKing @rwlpalmer @stux
Agreed, how do we address the situation where some children are too scared to go out though.
This is why we are saying that for minor offences other measures / interventions are needed, but for rape / sexual assault we need something else.that protects people.
A full investigation as to the circumstances, may point finger at parents a family member or other trusted adult
We need to stop social workers et al being worried about being accused of being racist, if a child is in danger ACT quickly, act robustly to protect the child.
Politics
@zleap @BabsSheKing @rwlpalmer @stux
In reality, social workers aren't concerned about that. I'm not sure most journalists have ever actual witnessed the reality of the job.
How we solve this isn't short term. It requires investment (from government) & protection instead of erosion of rights.
@zleap @stux
I'm slightly cynical about even real life behaviour and I think the only reason people behave OK in some public areas is because of CCTV and others smartphones, and that there's a level beyond which if they push things eventually some authority (security guard/cop) ejects them from the space they are in - and even then there are those who will misbehave directly under cameras. But encouragement to behave well needs to come from peer groups as well as outside authorities..