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@brian Just contacting the press office now

lush.com/uk/en/faq/contact-us

I am not sure if this is the right place, but they may be able to help me find the right people to contact.

If they get more than 1 e-mail suggesting the join ( I am including links to joinmastodon and joinpeertube ) they may take some notice

Paul

@NGIZero are you able to add your peertube link to your profile please.

@brian Idf nothing else moving here could give us a huge amount of publicity.

If fb et al are scared or worried about what we offer, the publicity of people moving here, may actually motivate them in to making their platform safer.

If nothing else it could give us that much needed exposure to bring people here, but that would come with good / bad people.

@brian I kinda agree with you, perhaps as they clearly don't like the way things are on Facebook et al, then maybe they can help make fedi better.

It is a difficult one to call really, the could use Peertube rather than youtube for example.

@brian Do you think it is worth trying to get them on here though.

It may just start to tip the balance, my attempt to get mental health charities on here seems to have failed (so far at least). I feel really sorry for those on here who need or may need help .

@icedquinn That head line reminds me of the ST voyager episode Scientific method, where the doctor likens the crew to being one large petri dish as the hidden aliens were conducting experiments on them.

@zleap
> "[Social media channels] do need to start listening to the reality of how they're impacting people's mental health and the damage that they're causing through their craving for the algorithm to be able to constantly generate content regardless of whether it's good for the users or not," Jack Constantine, chief digital officer and product inventor at Lush, told the BBC's Today programme.

the sad part is these platforms know exactly what they are doing

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/06/28/facebook-manipulated-689003-users-emotions-for-science/?sh=4af41a8f197c

@icedquinn They will listen even more when companies start to move here, and bring their customers with them, lets make them all feel welcome and importantly supported in their move.

Granted we are not here for advertising, but as a way for people to keep in touch, share product lines why not.

What we need is to support them, perhaps. I lack the skills to set my own instance up, but others d have these skills.

That will create demand for more people to learn, these skills (inc linux admin) we are ideally positioned as people who are a) here and b) care about what the fedi stands for to help these companies out.

Lush to stop some social media until it's 'safer'

(Lush is an Online cosmetics shop / company I think)

bbc.co.uk/news/business-593804

lush.com/uk/en

This sounds like a really good opportunity for the Fediverse to reach out and see if we can get them on to the decentralised platform.

They are looking for an alternative that is safer, well we may not be perfect but they will have more control with their own instance

Same goes for Youtube -> peertube instance.

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@Bleukitty @pamby1 @Sydneykaye01

Ok to add in this case I didn't ask about a paper, I just found an explanation of both exo and endo and asked if my interpretation was correct.

I guess on a similar note if some one said "all Nazis were evil" you could try and counter that with the story of Oskar Schindler

holocaustmatters.org/who-was-o

And suggest some helped saved lives.

It would be rather controversial or contentious, however if that sparked a good discussion that would be a good thing.

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@zleap

IMO, the issue lies within the 'reading' of it. Most are intimidated by medical research papers, i.e. terminology used and it requires time. I have been reading such papers for decades and I still have to look up some of the terminology. I'll add I typically go back and re-read them, just to assure myself I understood the material.

@pamby1 @Sydneykaye01

@Bleukitty @pamby1 @Sydneykaye01

Yeah it is not easy, I like websites such as scienceforums,net, if you read something and ask a question as to your understanding and post a link to a paper, people will generally help you.

Say something like Am I right in thinking X

I did that a while back when asking about endo vs exo thermic reactions so I could check I understood what I was reading properly.

@Sydneykaye01 @pamby1 @Bleukitty

There are similar issues with the current 'cancel culture' someone has branded Winston Churchill racist as he failed to help with a famine during 1943. (it may have been in India)

It seems that fails to take in to account the fact we were in the middle of world war 2. The Uk had rationing and was in immediate threat of invasion.

This is what concerns me, if you take historical figures, sure some are linked to slavery but there are two sides to every persons historical profile. We should be presented with both sides, and decide for ourselves, and others should respect that conclusion.

@Sydneykaye01 @pamby1 @Bleukitty

Saying that there was a BBC article online about I think a black hole merger casing the biggest exp;losion since the big bang.

Problem is the big bang was inflation not an explosion as such.

So even the BBC can't get it fully right but to be fair they need to write for a science / non science audience, which is much harder.

Patronise those who understand the science or baffle those who don't (and those who don't may have expertise in other areas of science).

@pamby1 @Sydneykaye01 @Bleukitty

If you want to read up on science just look at journals, etc, and support open access to research so more people can read up directly from the research and not a interpretation of it,

@Sydneykaye01 @pamby1 @Bleukitty

Given the world wide reach lets hope 2022 brings about some real changes.
I think COVID has potentially speeded up this process.

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