Paul Sutton @zleap@social.cleverlibre.org

@BlackAzizAnansi

The main difference between 9/11 and now, is that in 2023 we have global access to information, anayisis and 24/7 updates on what is going on, ok we did back then BUT in terms of the response we also ahve 24/7 updates, via multiple channels and from BOTH sides.

(Granted we also have 24/7 mis informatio)

As war crimes are being comitted they are not only being documented but documented online, blogs, articles, video, photos, these are being shared by others quickly too. We can see things happening in REAL TIME too. Which is more than can be said for the coverage of the 9/11 aftermath and subsequent illegal invasion of iraq and the invasion of Afghanistan.

There is zero escaping anything that happens, now matter how horiffic it is, that is bad for mental health I guess, bad for trying to cover things up (you can't) but is also good news for investigators who already have a good deal of evidence for war crimes on both sides.

If it ever comes to war crimes trials, no one is going to be able to fudge their way of out being in the dock in the Hague or where ever else.

@glnews_mirror

I looked up this, photos of ghettos housing Jews during WWII

https://allthatsinteresting.com/jewish-ghettos-photos#30

@thehill

That photo would look cool if they were walking left to right across the crossing

@thehill

I get the impression from people on here if a piece of marble hit clarance thomas on the head, they would not be too bothered.

@sellathechemist @exador23

Good point, and I hope you are right in this and also hope that Israel show restraint i n not provoking a wider conflict, either intentionally or by miscalculation.

@sellathechemist @exador23

LLoyd Austin and the Isreali politician, I can't help thinking they are pointing the finger at Iran over this, and saying they are somehow involved, while offering ZERO actual hard evidence. History is repeating itself here as they pulled the same BS in 2001 with the illigal iraq invasion.

LLoyd Austin seemed to also dodge some of the questions about the illegal actions to say he will let his counterpart answer, which of course he didn't

What I am also fearing is they will find some excuse to bomb Iran, and I mean any excuse, they can plant evidence so they can blame Iran then go in and kill thousands more people, destroy another sovergn UN nation, remove the legit government of a soveign country and possibly destroy important cultural and world heritage sites at the same time.

@sellathechemist @exador23

Fully agree, it seems we on Mastodon have a huge amount of humanity towards the Palestinian people and we can see the true horror of what is going on, at the same time I see very little suport for Hamas, sympathy for the victims of Saturdays massacre but zero support for the actions of the Isreali governments response.

Lets see what happens and prepare some nice big graphics with the simple words "TOLD YOU SO!!"

@piggo

I am not sure what the answer to that is, but denying people basic human needs, food, water, power, medical suppies is a breach of international law.

As pointed out by people this is 'collective punishment', Palestinians are being punished for the actions of Hamas.

On another note in the west bank restricting access to a mosque for prayer is surely a breach of the human right to practice their relgion so another crime against humanity.

What is to say that some Hamas fighters are not moving south with the population.

What I fear now is a western endorsed blood bath on a horrifc scale.

Jusft listening to LLoyd Austin. Hamas targets civilians, democracies don't

So why have they dropped 6000 bombs on Gaza
Why have they cut off food, fuel and power to Gaza
Why have they dropped White phosphorous on Gaza

These are WAR CRIMES and NOT self defence.

Even the UN have issued warnings about the demand from isreal for Palestinians to move south 1.1 million of them, despite he warning of a humanitarian catastrophy which have gone igored.

Why should the west be pushing for humanitarian corridors, if Isreal had any morality respect for international law, it would ensure these were set up to protect civilians, eso as they claim to be targeting Hamas.

Interesting that the BBC don't appear to be making any mention of the use of White Phosphorous.

The ICC prosecutor needs to break his silence on Israel-Palestine

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/10/12/the-icc-prosecutor-needs-to-break-his-silence-on-israel-palestine

I agree with what is being said here.

@MamasPinkyToe

I have no idea what that means either.

When governments say their country supports Isreal could they change their words to say that the goverment supports Isreal.

Otherwise, in current situation it implies that the people of that country fully support the bombardment of civilians, the cutting off of aid, water, fuel, and electricity, which is in violation of international law.

I am sure a vast majority of people also support the people of Isreal rather than the actions of their government which at times is in clear violation of international laws.

To imply that we support the 2nd paragraph is just inaccurate.
Same goes for support of Palestinians vs the support of Hamas, most people support the former.

Governments do not always speak for their people.