@Terra@chaosfem.tw @Impossible_PhD My suggestion is that there is nothing wrong with autistic people, but awareness for them is some half-hearted effort that would need to go much further. The problems i see, they affect everyone. Everyone is masking, everyone is suffering.

If someone is suffering more because they are more sensitive, OF COURSE they should get special attention. But the problem in itself is society, noting wrong with anyone autistic. Just normal people more sensitive than average. Being sensitive is good. "able to sense".

Really, nothing i ever heard about autism was ever strange, just antisocial behaviour by others that needs to be dealt with. Living is exhausting, and i am neither diagnosed nor think i would be if i went to a doctor.

Stop humans from being dicks to each other.

@admitsWrongIfProven I am strongly reminded of all the trans girls who are astonished to learn that men do not actually harbour secret desires to be women. Have you ever considered that descriptions of how autistic people experience the world might seem unremarkable to you because you are, perhaps, an undiagnosed autistic yourself?

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@AnCuRuadh @Terra@chaosfem.tw @Impossible_PhD Like i said, i do not think i would be diagnosed.
Everything ever described to me seems reasonable. Trying to frame it in "that is autism" would seem dismissive to me - the feelings described are just what everyone feels. Just that most people do not have the confidence to admit that. No wonder, confessing your feelings gets you clobbered, usually. I did learn that, as a neurotypical, and learned to brush off uncertaintiy. Makes life easier.

@admitsWrongIfProven >the feelings described are just what everyone feels.

No. No they are not.

@admitsWrongIfProven >Just that most people do not have the confidence to admit that.

Most people do not admit to masking because because most people are neurotypical and therefore do not mask. I don't know what's so confusing about this. :blobfoxconfused:

>I ... learned to brush off uncertaintiy. Makes life easier.

You had to *learn* how do deal with uncertainty? Ffs, that is not a neurotypical trait! :blobfoxconfused:

@AnCuRuadh It seems to me that you are trying to divide people, not something i think is helpful. Can you elaborate on why you do this?

@admitsWrongIfProven Don't waste my time with bad faith arguments. I made simple, direct assertations of well-known, well-proven facts. If you want to engage in silly conspiracy theories take it elsewhere. :blobfoxangry:

@AnCuRuadh I understand. I wish you the very best and will not contact you again. Please contact @freemo to tell me to remove the block if you ever feel like it.

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This person had me block, had to view the thread in an anonymous window to even read it.

I more or less agree with you with one caveat: Autism absolutely is real, its just the vast majority of normal people are IMO misdiagnosed as Autistic. The more severe less functioning cases are quite obvious and I think it would be hard to deny there is a real condition there. But the vast majority of people where it isnt apparent I am fairly certain are almost all misdiagnosed.

I actually came to this realization a few years ago after a long conversation with a psych on the topic.

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@freemo Well, i think society is the problem. Abuse people, expect problems.
Anyway, i hope it is ok for you that i told them to contact you of they want further contact... a bit presumptious of me to just assume that was ok.

@admitsWrongIfProven I dont mind at all, but considering that they have me blocked I wouldnt get your hopes up.

And I agree that it is a society thing. In fact I'd argue it is largely a US and to a lesser extent UK thing. The social encironment right now is such that if you act respectful and normal you will be ahuge target. It makes people think they cant read peoples emotions (basically autism) when in gact its reallyother people whoa re emotionally unstable and go off half-hinged with little or no provocation.

Basically the way I see it instead of the small handful of people diagnosed as Autistic being the ones with the disease, they are mostly the normal healthy people. Its everyone else, the vast majority, who have developed personality disorders that is the real problem. Its just easier to say a minority have autism than to say a majority of the population all have a disorder like a personality disorder.

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