it's striking how routinely i encounter people who are genuinely shocked and angry that i would share some subset of their beliefs but not the entire ideological package
this is one of the more depressing experiences i've had in terms of what it's forced me to conclude about human psychology
like sorry but it is possible (quite reasonable, even) to simultaneously be both a socialist and a racist. it's possible to be fully aware of the sickening degeneracy of the queer movement and the violent insanity of the "poison and rape ur kids lol" tranny cult without hating ordinary non-cultist gays or transexuals or thinking their rights should be taken away. it's even possible to notice that jews are widely up to no good and holocaust "scholarship" is full of lying ideologues without being a holocaust denier (altho the 6 million number *is* probably bullshit from what i've been able to find).

rocketing straight from one extreme to another is not generally very helpful. it's something european and euro-derived cultures seem to have kind of a problem with. asians seem to be better with subtlety and gray areas tho (russians also seem to be picking this up; presumably the awful revolutions of 1917 and the '90s taught them a thing or two about that), so i'm hoping it's a cultural, IQ, or racial thing and not like a human thing in general

@velartrill
> like sorry but it is possible (quite reasonable, even) to simultaneously be both a socialist and a racist.

there even is a term for this! ;)

@bonifartius and i wish the NSDAP hadn't appropriated it, like the bunch of sexist racist white cishet males they were,

@velartrill i recently read about ernst röhm. reportedly large parts of the nsdap knew he was gay and didn't care what he did in private, but the _socialists_ weaponized it against the nsdap before '33. may even be the wikipedia article i got this from.
the discrepancy that there were some women (riefenstahl, hannah reitsch) in high regard for their work is also interesting. like anything it's not really black & white, even if everybody wants the nazis to be pure evil 🤷‍♀️

@bonifartius @velartrill

>like anything it's not really black & white,
How do you people convince yourselves of this
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@Eris i'm convinced that i probably don't know "the truth". hell, it probably doesn't even exist 🤷‍♀️

@velartrill

@Eris how with my limited human abilities could i perceive and understand the objective truth?

note this is different from what i think is ethical. the problem is that it's like flying with only radar. some things are very obviously bad (huge echo from a mountain) some are not so clear (maybe just a nasty cloud?)

there are few things i can clearly say i think are bad, like child or animal abuse. nazis did some pretty fucked things, but some ideas were probably right, like cheap vacations for workers and emphasizing the value of families.

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@bonifartius @velartrill

>how with my limited human abilities could i perceive and understand the objective truth?
The sky is blue.
It's really easy I don't know why you people have all these weird epistemological hangups I think public school trained you to phrase everything like you're a bitch ass nigga tbqh.
>some things are very obviously bad (huge echo from a mountain) some are not so clear (maybe just a nasty cloud?)
People always tell me there are grey areas but I have yet to ever see one.
>nazis did some pretty fucked things,
Like what?
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