@Epiphany @Shadowman311 I agree. A rational and sensible pro-natal policy would include funding solutions to the formula shortage and subsidizing wet nurses but we’re not allowed to live in a sensible or rational country
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@borzoi @Epiphany @Shadowman311 the women who don't produce enough milk are _really_ rare. a somewhat healthy newborn has enough reserves to accomodate initial lack of milk, but todays standard is to just give up if the milk doesn't flow in biblical amounts on the first try. instantly giving up of course is exactly the wrong thing to do. many nurses (misguidedly, i don't think nurses are evil) push formula then.
for the few remaining cases formula naturally is right, like with any medication.
also things like nursing consultants (don't know the right term) should be standard, but those don't generate much money.
@bonifartius @Epiphany @Shadowman311 Good to hear. I usually hear mixed stories.
@borzoi @Epiphany @Shadowman311 i think it's often due to all the FUD about it. there are some groups to help women with breastfeeding issues (a simple position change can be all that is required..), but the formula companies are pushing their stuff hard. volunteers can't go against that :/
@bonifartius @borzoi @Epiphany @Shadowman311 how do you ... this.... wrong??
@Epiphany
like i've written somewhere in this thread, that's what formula was invented for :)
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thats exactly what formula was invented for! i'm just angry that to many parents get pushed into exclusively feeding formula without necessity :/
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@GLObalMARinePR yeah, we had some starting problems "on the baby side" and some of the staff were quick to suggest formula too. took some determination :) @borzoi @Epiphany @Shadowman311
@GLObalMARinePR we did osteopathy because of the baby wanting to look only in one direction, it did work really well. really a shame that osteopathy is often labeled as bullshit. @borzoi @Epiphany @Shadowman311
They’re called lactation consultants, we’ve got our first kid on the way and we’re concerned since all of my wife’s family members had trouble nursing.
but todays standard is to just give up if the milk doesn’t flow in biblical amounts on the first try
That’s probably true, but I know of several women who really struggled (see: wife’s family), including some who hired consultants. It seems entirely possible the profession has quacks like any other though.
@ademan maybe take a look at https://www.llli.org if they are somewhere around where you are. i think they do consulting for free (don't take my word for it though ;)
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@bonifartius @Epiphany @Shadowman311 How did your kids do with breastfeeding?