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just realized how cursed trumps presidential library will be.
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@conatus I'm less worried about Trump's library and More saddened by the fact that we just elected the first Segregationist in my living history as president. Never have I been so ashamed to be an american than I am right now :(
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@freemo @icedquinn @conatus eh we’ll see
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Sure, if he has actual evidence I welcome him to present it. So far even if there is fraud he hasnt produced a single bit of evidence and, well, he isnt a man who tends to be very good at accomplishing what he says he will so I dont have high hopes until I see some.
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the evidence has been convincing enough several states have initiated full audits (not recounts.)
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@icedquinn There is no evidence let alone comvvincing evidence that I've seen. Though feel free to share with me any solid evidence and I may change my mind.
What I have seen is lots of examples of errors. But as we know from the Gore trials errors do not imply and are not sufficient to argue fraud, which requires intent. Without intent Trump has about as much evidence as Gore had.
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there's a lady in tx who was just formally charged with ~100s of counts of ballot frauds.
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@icedquinn how do you feel the "not enough to matter" issue should be handled? If, just saying if, there was only a tiny bit of fraud and most people think it is "not enough to matter". I presume you disagree, so how would you respond if that were the case (presuming the fraud was only a very small number of cases)?
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what i look at is what people claimed (the postal worker who said he was dumping trump votes, one of the poll workers who came out in the news and admitted he shredded any trump vote he could) and then look if the security measures existed to prevent it.
there is AFAIK no security against harvesters destroying ballots.
there is no security against printing fake ballots in the basement and counting them at 4am. they don't even have to be postmarked, ruled the PA court.
the constitution also says you submit your totals on the 3rd, so the giant heap of biden ballots aren't even valid. (consider that other states like TX were able to process early voting for an entire month, and most other states were able to process their early and mail-ins without the bizzare midnight staccato, and ask why the battleground states were unable to get their mail in on the constitutionally dictated time?)
the courts of course use other means. rekieta had a~20min video about how many of the suits are unlikely to work, not as much because there is no smoke but because nobody will want to be the judge who rules for nuking hundreds of thousands of ballots just because they didn't follow the damn due date.
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@icedquinn I would need to see links to these incidents to get a sense of them. But yes those could be potential problems.
