@Salaru

We call this cherry-picked data. Do the same chart but now look at COVID **deaths**. Texas has had a 40x increase in deaths over that time. Hawaii has had only about a 4x increase in the same time period.

Its almost like the vaccines are keeping people from dying or getting the disease as strongly... funny that, its doing what its supposed to.

@freemo Check the "Covid short" notepad for a shit ton of links on vaxxing deaths. Most recent at the bottom.
mediafire.com/folder/xqxptfdi2

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@Salaru I'm well aware of the anti-vax propaganda when it comes to making up vaccine deaths. I've been through this discussion countless times.

@freemo So you're also ignoring that gates was saying depopulation would require forced vaccination in 2010? It was even in the papers. Not to mention the MRNA inventor came out against it himself. Or that the left is nuts about planned parenthood because gates father, the eugenicist, and sangers started planned parenthood as "Project Negro" to control black population. Or the last century or so of the forced sterilization of indigenous women, who the media ignores the recent disappearances of?

@Salaru How exactly am I "ignoring" that, none of that was discussed until just now.

@Salaru @freemo hawaii is 56% vaccinated, new york is 65%. new york has more deaths than texas :blobcatwhistle:

@icedquinn

How is that relevant. The numbers I used were normalized per population (relative change), you are not normalizing per population and using absolute numbers, ergo not valid. You cant just argue against good statistics with bad ones and think that makes a point of some kind.

@Salaru

@freemo @icedquinn I'm saying that you're trusting the statistice from the same people who insisted that aids was made not by an experimental vax, but by gay people fucking monkeys. And that flip flopping fraud fauci supressed useful treatments and spread disinformation then too, while the WHO went to declassify homosexuality as a "disease" in africa. All less than a decade after the CDC was performing illegal experiments on black people. It's the party of eugenics. They control "statistics".

@Salaru

I am not trusting the statistics from any one "people" im trusting the statistics from many independent sources that all agree rather closely with each other. I would never rely on a single source by itself unless I verified indepdendent sources confirmed the data, and they have.

@icedquinn

@Salaru

For that matter if the data is so untrustworthy then why did **you** use that same data in your original post as if it was meaningful when you thought it agreed with you? Now all of a sudden the same data you used actually shows your wrong its bad data.

See the problem there? Again we call that cherry picking.

@icedquinn

@freemo @icedquinn As for cherry picking, meh. Whatever. Guess I'm a little combative because of my blood sugar. Still tweaking my diet for reasons. Whatever. Agree to disagree. I got burritoes to make and freeze. Peace out. ✌️

@freemo @Salaru texas population is approximately 4x larger than new york.

@icedquinn

Your point? Hawaii's death count in the period of the OP increased about 4 or 5 fold, New yorks increased 6 fold, Texas increased 40 fold. The OP's point is a failure whether you compare against hawaii or new york, if you bother to normalize for population of course and not use invalid statistics.

@Salaru

@freemo @icedquinn Your party of racial eugenics doesn't use real statistics. They've been caught fluffing corona death rates by classifying gun shot deaths as covid deaths if they had covid within a certain time of death, and patients who died of ruptured lungs from ventilators or died of other issues if they happened to catch it while dying. You believe the sources that killed millions within our lifetimes, and you beg them for more.

@Salaru

My party of racial eugenics? What the fuck are you talking about, since when did the Libertarian party do racial eugenics?

If your so riddled with propaganda and bias you assume, and get wrong, my personal party how in the world can I expect you to be objective enough to deal with the subject matter at hand at all?

@icedquinn

@Salaru @freemo i wandered off to do some math. the correlation between vaccination and reduction of deaths is weak (pearson r, -0.2)

(tables from statista)

stdev of death percentages is 0.0006542119342399378

@icedquinn

Please show full sources and your work.. specifically where your getting data from and the worksheet you used to do the calculations so it can be reviewed.

@Salaru

@icedquinn

Also to be clear here, I didnt use correlation in my argument, I used granger causality. This was very intentional on my part

@Salaru

@freemo

What was your position/argument? Can you link it to me?

@icedquinn

@mk

The OP blocked me so no. I can explain the original discussion if you wish.

@icedquinn

@freemo

nah. never mind. i'd liked to read up on it, but its not worth your hustle xD

@icedquinn

@icedquinn

thanks, ill have to find a way to run pluto notebook and check your work.

@Salaru

@freemo @Salaru it didn't sit well with me doing an R test from a percentage to a percentage so i tried something a bit more deliberate: disregard everything within 1 deviation and do a t-test on the upper group and lower group's vaccination rates to see if the high death and low death can be separated that way.

julia says: failed to reject h_0 (p 0.05) :comfywat:

putting this away for the night.

@icedquinn Kudos for actually trying to do real analysis. I will let you know what I see once i take a closer look at the pluto notebook. Have setup a pluto workspace first.

@freemo @Salaru
Here is the doctor's opinion. Much more we know from RN personnel. Who cares about your opinion?

@123abceng

Wow dude, he isnt a doctor. I just looked for the source of this post, its from a comment thread on a webpage you screen shotted. Absolutely nothing to indicate he is a doctor... nice try, lololol.

@Salaru

@freemo @Salaru We are just looking at likes. Every like in that branch means "MD," dude... It is an old post. ~ 4 months ago. At that time it wasn't too many non-professionals there, like you.

@123abceng

lolololol yea he must be an md cause it was 4 months ago on a comment therad.

@Salaru

@123abceng

Sorry I block people I catch lying, especially when they dont put in an effort to apologize. Welcome to block. Dont lie about someone being a doctor when they arent next time.

@Salaru

@123abceng

Sorry once you posted random comments from a thread with no indiciation the person commenting was a doctor and lied and said he was a doctor anyway you lost all credibility to have a hand in this conversation. I am not going to be a detective and track down every time you lie.. your first lie was enough to get cut off, your done, bye. go to the next thread.

@Salaru

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