@freeschool russell brand is leftwing. i'm not quite sure he's on the republican side; again, media personality with clout, and opinions

"capitalism is dead", it says, on his site. bullshit.

for purpose of republicanism, i will work with socialists, but i have libertarian views, centre-right. socialists are authoritarian by nature

as soon as the monarchy is gone, i will fight russel brand and his ilk tooth and nail. for now, i agree we need to unite with such allies (enemies of our enemy)

@freeschool republicanism, afterall, isn't a left or right wing issue. it is simply a belief that we need to remove the monarchy from power

socialists like brand want a republic so that the new elected president and senate might be on their side, to work according to their agenda; which, is fair because if elected, that means it's the national will

right now, we have an unelected house of lords and monarch that does what it wants, the people be damned. this is what republicans want to change

@freeschool a lot of monarchists think republicanism is inherently leftwing, but they are wrong. be under no illusion. when the republic does come, conservatism will thrive

socialists, liberals and conservatives will exist in the same proportion of society as they do now, but with greater democracy and ability to exercise their authorities, when they gain consent via elections

that's all it means. delete the monarchy, and elect presidents+senators, some of them may actually be conservatives!

@freeschool I think i have a term to describe people like russel brand, alex jones, tucker carlson... all these people exist on different ends of the political spectrum, but they all engage in the same thing:

conspiracy porn

that's what i call it. you'll instinctively just get what i mean, i hope?

@libreleah
CONSPIRACY PORN / RUSSELL BRAND etc
yes I get that phrase "conspiracy porn" but try define it below just to make sure and for practice, so perhaps it means:
- it's excitement and compelling to talk about things more about the bad people who clearly do not great work / are not transparent ETC.
and
- as good as 'porn' because we all like for the extremes to be talked about and want to be heard ourselves, asked, participate in the future, contribute to etc what is healthier but there is no other avenues / deliberately muted and spaces are shut down / policed.

Again it might be subject to taste about Russel Brand but the principles or questions asked make him most irrelevant / even neutral as a container (seems to add the opposite in there so he does get banned but we all need that a bit).

Again I understand how visuals anesthetics effect people - but if anyone would say that I'd hear it
- meaning I could take it on point and principle BUT knowing everything can be wrapped in another bubble or weaponised for xyz reason...

I even appreciate those that look the part, can say the did drugs, as they are honest in that way... met few people along the way and all seemed honest / down to earth / grounded / tragic despite their habits in their special time to cope.

It's not like people in business suites that cloaks people's sadness and somewhat their personality / function.

He is what his. And tells it like it is mostly for him or others.

Time to fix the world I say... via it's people and not relying on 1 person. Even with contrasting perspectives this only helps people refine / narrow down and pinpoint in themselves in humanity *with others* which I think is like the holy grail of finding how to accept different people / their differences / etc... something we all know (maybe) that it's not 1 iron / ignorant financial based system (etc etc).

@libreleah
Sounds like you judge him for his past mostly - but I'm glad you see his positive sides a bit...

His past is maybe judgeable yes - but I see this as a positive thing as he's risked and done all the drugs (maybe) and really doesn't want for it for everyone else... he discusses things more honestly than a scared average person not willing to risk any logical change and as a result is better overall.

For people to do something more (even if all 'lunatics' might sound so to you) there is a lot of truth there or reasoning... and though it's a battle to see what it is with 'lunatics' for me Russel Brand has clarity and basic principles (regardless of other stuff which you can take into consideration) but still stands even if you're a bad person.

I even value from his experience as it's more wild that people's normal (and his choice to comes back from it experienced rather than fable-tellers) and he's come across a lot of subject and people in short lifespan...

A straight / overly nice person would let things go bad / never want to call or say bad about anyone.

So it's little a winey or inexperienced for yourself maybe looking at his hair ^_^ lol (without being personally attacking to you but seriously) and then some intellectual stuff after which is also good... but also a bit of a contrast...

so I appreciate it nonetheless

A nicer way to show how I interpreted the reply momentarily was:
"I don't like his history and can't get past that hair, and then I'll jump to writing about republican stuff..."

It's great you say about fighting, as I didn't hear that before from your posts (mostly *only* computer stuff with gab / kiwi stuff lately in between)... do feel free to point me to a few posts or 10

Happy to hear more in the future.

@freeschool I do watch his videos sometimes. It's nice to see the other side. I agree with a lot of what he says.

This video for example is quite entertaining: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=m_VxecAWFxA

@libreleah hehe
OK that intro was quite religiously welcoming ^^ but I guess he tries a comedic improvisation regularly in the intro's to also gather people together a bit / show unity as individuals etc. Better than not I guess.

And again seems whichever way we look at it we all mostly agree and like for certain things as individuals and we know now more than even what *not* to like and the systematic things are part of that (system = the patterns of mentality)...

But for average person it's simply making our way together through the jungle and seeing the joke about the credibility of authority and what it bases itself on and the waterfall it makes (forces / reinforces) down to others... realising that the respect people give it themselves is mostly emptiness and fear or lack of imagination and ends up with people ignoring and letting other people steal and run away with it!
:) 🏃‍♂️ 🏃‍♀️ <-- hey that's my energy and money you have their take care of it!

@freeschool in USA, the symbology of the state is the bill of rights, founding fathers, great monuments, specific presidents in history (e.g. abe lincoln, ronald raygun), key noteworthy figures... and they teach kids the value of democracy

in the UK, the line is more blurred, but we have a clear symbol for the state: the monarch, the two houses (lords and commons).. the noteworthy figures in history that you see, printed on the currency

democracy is what matters. the rest of it is just hogwash

@freeschool it's important to try to realise what people actually cherish, when you see them in droves supporting the royals today

people need something to cheer for. for the republic to take hold, it needs the same reverence to key figures, monuments, times etc

it's definitely possible to rewrite a state. it has happened many times, in the last 100 years. more technically, it is just a bigger change. in reality, no state that existed 100 years ago exists today in the same form (states evolve)

@freeschool i place greater emphasis on the machine of the state, as opposed to government. the government is an arm of the state, steering and influencing it, but the state is very big, compromising the whole of society both physically and culturally (and economically). it is most recognisable when you look at key sectors of economy, military, judiciary, etc... the stuff that matters. culture and tradition, and some cult love for some queen, these are just illusions that maintain a status quo

@libreleah So for this is your outlook generally that it's hard or near impossible for government to get out of state control or re-birth itself as something else or towards something better?

@freeschool the power of the state is what often keeps governments in check, yes. except in the most despotic regimes, the state acts as a guardrail preventing the government from becoming too crazy

@libreleah Any suggests from that?

@freeschool dunno what you mean

@libreleah "the state is what often keeps governments in check, yes." so how to come out of that or improve situation - any suggestions?

@freeschool oh, well i'm a big believer in decentralisation, so i would not want to give any government more power over its citizens

@freeschool more successfully democratic states like switzerland have the state running so tight that the government may aswell not exist (in switzerland, everything is decentralized and they don't even have a president, it's a council of leaders from different districts, and no one person ever has ultimate authority over anything. couping it is basically impossible, and libertarianism is basically the default mode for the whole country. it's amazing, and i wish that existed in the UK)

@libreleah@mas.to @freeschool@qoto.org you need bigger banks and a lot of gold the nazi left there,to be like switzerland.

@Yujiri Yeah I had some feeling of this but as isolated jobs (or individuals thinking in isolation) I can see how people are compartmentalised or just blinkered (like horses with tunnel vision) and nobody really thinks much what others are doing in other department or companies in different buildings (mostly people get pre-occupied with themself and their area ?)
But over the scheme is perhaps 1 thing by design or from top level
(what do you think about this, does it sound similar to what you mean?)

@libreleah And finally I mentioned about being interested in what you might have wrote before... (please search your posts as I can't on this side) since it's mostly computer stuff or lately and would help me if you put a few links to non-computer things (as much as that is good).