@11112011 its at best a placebo and worst case experimental gene therapy
@Terry at the end of the day u prolly gon have to get it lets be real doesnt matter whos there u know this right?

@11112011 @Terry real as in government can forcibly inject you with stuff because it makes money for Pfizer?

Bro.

@apropos @11112011 @Terry I thought the clotting thing was Astra Zeneca.

The whole neurological / heart attack things probably won't be helped by anticoagulants

If only there was some research going into these issues rather than Biden mumbling about aliens while pharma takes their rake

@skells @11112011 @Terry AZ's clots were just more loudly reported. After J&J was paused (effectively halted in the US, when I considered getting it after the pause was lifted, it wasn't offered anywhere) there was a big backlash against such reporting because it leads to "vaccine hesitancy", the worst thing the world.

We're not allowed to have an open discussion about this because if we were the obvious answer would be to vaccinate 600lb 60-year-olds and let the virus run its course with the rest of us.

@apropos @11112011 @Terry and treat early with the zoo of FDA approved drugs that have demonstrated effectiveness.

At this point it's become about control, they can't afford to lose face now Pfizer is balls deep on their "watch"

@skells @Terry @apropos its just comon sense u dont need to be an expert to forsee they aint losing
@11112011 @skells @Terry they've already made their money, they're immune from any consequences, and they've proven the technology... to an extent, even for people who don't like it. They've got a bright future with thousands of therapeutic uses of it that people will get four times a year. They can win while the lockdownists still lose.

@apropos @11112011 @Terry
From where I'm standing the cracks are already starting to show, hard push for the vaccinations has led to other solutions being suppressed.

If it turns out that we're out of the woods and there are no long term consequences for the vaccines then maybe they're home free

Somehow I don't think this is the end of it; with vaccines seemingly selecting for more virulent forms of the disease and booster shots on the way there's a lot of potential for this to get ugly.

Hopefully the worst is over and well be back to normal in a few months. This doesn't change the fact that the whole system needs to be changed - these lobbyists need to be torn out root and stem, the stakes are getting too high.

@skells @apropos @Terry u want to gib us all horse drugs i get, on other news here all is schualed to be over the latest in october, again no one is dying and we on track to get 85% of jabbed
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@11112011 @Terry @apropos also, when you say horse drugs to a Brit they assume you mean ketamine, had to think about that one a bit

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