If trans women competing in sports is so dangerous please explain why they fucking suck so bad
people who don't actually know anything about sports or care about sports and just like being bigots will claim trans women in athletics will be "unfair" while completely ignoring that most trans women athletes don't actually win or do very well at all
The first trans woman CWHL player fucking sucked shit. Worst player on her team
It is truly pathetic how far out of the way people will go to be willfully ignorant just to confirm their dumb little idpol team's ideals
if you don't know shit about sports and don't know shit about governing bodies in sports and if you got picked last in gym class so many times you developed a complex about it please just shut up! thank you
@vriska still think it's bullshit, although I sympathise with the difficult position it puts trans competitors on
I wouldn't have a problem with gender neutral categories
@skells they really shouldn't separate most sports by gender, especially team sports
@vriska I'm open minded, I struggle with the anti-biological nature of some of the arguments used by trans activists though.
If it becomes the new cultural norm to not make the distinction in sports then I'm easy, but there's something profoundly disingenuous with the schtick that a trans woman is a woman in every biological sense.
I'm not sure how much the make believe is helpful to people who are already struggling to square themselves with the dice fate has rolled for them, particularly as it often seems more about others around them pretending everything is fine, rather than confronting some of the real challenges I'm sure trans people face.
Speaking from limited experience but sincerel reflection on the issue.
@Moon @vriska this is also a valid point, I can see a situation where we do gender neutral teams and it turns out that either the quality of the sport degrades or we end up just having certain sports dominated by a certain gender
On the other hand, would be genuinely interesting to see men and women taking different roles in team sports on average and how that might change the complexion of the sport
@vriska agreed, I also don't like being pressured into nodding along with stuff I feel is patent bullshit
Not that what you're saying is, seems perfectly reasonable, it's the anti-biological narrative that I take particular issue with.
But yeah, I'll leave it there cos I'm way out of my depth on sport adjudication
@skells Since I'm not trans I don't like to talk about it a lot, like, it's not my place, I feel like, but I have been an athlete and a fan of sports my whole life, and since I have yet to see one single tangible example of a trans woman even doing WELL in sports, I guess I feel like the least we could do as a society is try to not make trans peoples lives harder in one aspect of life