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What I was hinting at was that when somebody, for whatever reason, does not/can not consider that the solution to their problem has a lot to do with them, they simply are not accessible to advice and help.

At least the psychologists I met and stuff I read clearly says: you cannot help people who do not want to be helped.

That is what meant by "being reflective" - to have at least some doubts about whether help is even possible.

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@FailForward @thor @shibao @evelyn

Yes agreed, a doctor can't force help pn someone, they need to accept there is a problem and ask for help.

Courts may be able to, but that is slightly different.

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