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@JKuznicki You said that the best way to defend the rights of a majority is to exit. If a town chooses to ban black people, and they exit and form their own town for lack of a better option, what else would you call that other than segregation?

@JKuznicki On an individual scale, the right to exit is essential. On a societal scale, relying on it will only lead to mass segregation.

@JKuznicki On the contrary. As global society has democratized, civil rights have flourished. You think that's a coincidence?

@JKuznicki Can you explain what you mean by "instantiating" here? I've never heard that word used in that context before.

Usually, I'd choose "enforcing" there.

@JKuznicki No, they're populated by the same people. But democracy is ruled by the will of the majority of those who seek to participate. And as history has shown, that majority is more often than not, good.
But, in anarchy, might makes right, and that is a clear incentive for the worst of humanity to take over.

It's not a difference in the hypothetical. It's a difference in the core concept and how that applies to human behaviour.

@JKuznicki Yes, and with anarchy, you have no rights at all, other than the ones you can physically defend yourself.

How is that better than a democratic system that seeks to protect rights equally for everyone?

@JKuznicki I mean, it can also be credited for a great deal of the world's current state of prosperity, and it was the mechanism used by much of the world to stop white people from considering black people "property". I could list hundreds more examples of the fruits of democracy.

All anarchy gets you is unrestricted individual liberty, which is only a good thing if you've thought about it for less than five seconds.

@JKuznicki I honestly don't understand anarchists. Like, do you not understand human nature, or are you actively rooting for a culture of local warlords exerting their dominance through sheer brute force? Because that's the *inevitable* endgame of anarchy mixed with human nature.

@JKuznicki You should take your own advice; in the second paragraph of that tweet, you could replace "Democracy" with virtually any other form of government and it would still be accurate.

Like I said: When governing a large body of people, you need a system. And democracy is the least bad system humans have come up with in thousands of years. Of course it's not perfect. And of course its square peg doesn't fit every round hole. But there's good reason that it's more strongly associated with good governance over every other form of government.

@JKuznicki If you chose to leave, then it doesn't matter, because those terms only bound you for content you produce on their property.

Even if it's not an explicit option in the poll Elon posts, leaving the platform for another is absolutely an implicit voting option in every service we choose to patronize.

In this particular case, it's just a question of whether you view the electorate as encompassing only "twitter customers" or all "social media users".

@dtluna @JKuznicki Of course it is... when you're making a decision for one.

But when you're making a decision for a large group, the needs of the group take precedence over the autonomy of the one. And democracy is the least bad way of managing that.

@JKuznicki On the contrary. If you refuse to participate in democracy in your country, you're still bound by the laws enacted by those you didn't elect.
In this case, folks are choosing to abandon the service because of the decisions of it's leaders in favor of other services. That's the strongest form of voting the free market allows.

@JKuznicki I'd argue that the clearest example of democracy in this whole situation is the mass of people voting with their feet to leave Twitter.

You may note that they're typically not voting in Elon's polls.

@JKuznicki By that logic, Russia also has "a modicum of democracy" because they have elections.

But we all know there's a difference between the show that's put on and the reality, and we don't call that sham "democracy".

@JKuznicki Lots.
1) Run them for longer than a day or provide some advance notice they're happening.
2) Make the results binding
3) Use a voting medium that's not so ridiculously susceptible to being gamed by bots.

And that's before we get into stuff like the changing of the options because he didn't like how the poll was going.

Epic Games, creator of the popular video game Fortnite fined $520 million by FTC in relief over allegations the company violated COPPA and deployed design tricks, known as dark patterns, to dupe millions of players into making unintentional purchases

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@melancholybear@mastodon.world Hate speech is absolutely protected speech in America. And for good reason.

When this country tried to make hate speech illegal, the first time the law was used, it was to prosecute a black man for protesting the draft.

@CryptoBot Lmao what a dumb take. The very things that proponents like about blockchain (immutable records of who did what) make such systems *more* susceptible to lawsuit than traditional social media without S230.

And that's before you consider how half the world considers blockchain to be synonymous with scams.

Blockchain will replace social media when pigs fly.

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