Louis Ingenthron @LouisIngenthron@social.cleverlibre.org

@tripu I think part of the problem is that, in our society, we consider murder to be a crime that can be committed against anyone... But rape is a crime committed only against the vulnerable (not in reality, but in perception). And it's that element of taking advantage of the vulnerable that makes it especially heinous.

@tripu To a degree, the victim matters. Murder of a child *is* typically depicted as being just as heinous as pedophilia.
But depicting the murder of a soldier or a criminal is more acceptable, because that's the job they signed up for.

I think the other issue is that while most people would view depictions of rape or pedophilia with an appropriate reaction (horror), there are those who might seek it out for arousal purposes, and nobody wants to create porn for those people. You don't really have that issue with a gun battle in an action movie.

@jann Or because we just don't want to be recorded.

@Loukas Wouldn't that end up just tasting like regular salted chips?

@lednabwm Maybe... or it could be the lefty version of the tactic the right uses to try to try to normalize their fringe. An example of a motte & bailey argument.

@beeoproblem Yeah, that one drove me nuts too.

@john If their intent is to strike fear into those they're protesting, then they most certainly are terrorists.

And there are exceedingly few reasons to open-carry other than intimidation.

@john I participated in the BLM protests. We were a massive crowd of people in t-shirts surrounded by cops in full body armor, with long arms, mounted on horseback.

I am extremely certain that open-carrying would have made the situation worse in every way, and likely would have been rejected by the very people I was marching with.

@ryo That's cool. Go ahead and boycott the indies just trying to get by and instead spend your money on the major studios that can afford to hire labor at slave wages to build internal engines.

@ryo They did choose wisely... years before Unity made this announcement.

Sorry if we can't see into the future sufficiently to earn your business.

@ryo 99% of business plans rely on services from other businesses. Nobody can do everything themselves, and your demand that they do is unrealistic and misinformed.

@ryo You're demanding that indie studios redo years and hundreds of thousands of dollars of work because of a decision someone else made. And you're describing it as "take a bit longer". That's either dishonest or grossly ignorant.

I'm guessing it's the latter, because *most* businesses operate dependent on other businesses. Retail stores are dependent on landlords. Websites are dependent on server hosts. Product manufacturers are dependent on logistics companies and retailers. That's just how business works. Do you think I should also not "make myself a slave" to Steam and try to sell the game myself? Because I'd be homeless if I did that.

Your proposed solutions are uninformed and impractical. And your desire to further hurt the people who are already most hurt by Unity's decision is just cruel and arbitrary.

@ryo Lol "Port, make new software" you say, as if it's so easy. 😆 🤦‍♂️

Those things take *years*. Most developers don't have the budget for being screwed over by their engine. And you want to exacerbate the problem by boycotting the victims.