Louis Ingenthron @LouisIngenthron@social.cleverlibre.org

@freemo @thegonzoism @trinsec I gotta say, living in a country where we literally enslaved people, I'm much more concerned about the tyranny of the majority than the tyranny of the minority.

@freemo @thegonzoism @trinsec ...and do you think that's a good thing?

@freemo @trinsec @thegonzoism Define "surrounded" lol

@freemo @thegonzoism @trinsec Funny, I didn't say "race"...

The senators are elected with the exact same popular vote system as the house members. How is that different?

The senate doesn't "even out the densities". If anything, it makes the representation far more lopsided than it should be by, again, correlating arbitrary geographic boundaries with voting power.

@thegonzoism @freemo @trinsec Fwiw, Freemo's map isn't misleading because of gerrymandering. It's misleading because it obscures population density and incorrectly implies a correlation between votes and land mass.

@freemo @thegonzoism @trinsec
(A) The electoral college seems to break in favor of the GOP, who minorities overwhelmingly vote against, so your theory there doesn't really match reality.

(B) Though a congressperson may only represent their district, they vote on legislation that affects the entire country, so that logic doesn't work. I don't want to elect someone who doesn't want to fund snowplows on northern highways just because he's from Florida.

@casastorta @freemo Compared to more urban cities, sure, no doubt. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. Society needs people of both types and families need room to grow.

@casastorta @freemo You're describing upper-class white suburbia. I can assure you that there are other types and they're not quite so overbearing.

@freemo @thegonzoism @trinsec The electoral college only matters for one vote every four years. The popular vote matters the rest of the time, especially on local matters.

@freemo @casastorta Yes, and there are equal studies showing how isolation will drive you insane. 🤷‍♂️

@casastorta @freemo I disagree. It may depend on the city, but I'm a lower-middle-class suburb dweller that doesn't mind the city at all. Downtown Orlando is beautiful and clean and nice. And I'm only 15-20 minutes away from downtown. I'm more afraid of Disney, honestly. My biggest gripe with downtown is that I suck at parallel parking.

@freemo @alecui But it's hard to show the clear pattern in those specific years because there were so many other crazy things going on (JFK assassination, Humphrey/Wallace, etc.)

@freemo @alecui If that's your criteria, then look at '60 and '64. It did basically flip on a dime.

In this whole sequence, look especially at the core Confederacy states.

@freemo @alecui Those look the same to you?!?

@freemo @alecui