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@tonic @edutooters LOL you are reminding me of my high school drafting class...most unpleasant memories.

@grimmiges @JorgeStolfi @TEG @anne_kreft @jocelyn_etienne @academicchatter I would just ask who is allowed entry into these professions and fields if the extensive work of training is unpaid? Who can afford to do that?
As a point of reference, in the US at least, the majority of reputable Ph.D. programs are funded, where graduate students are paid (hopefully at or close to) a living wage and have their tuition paid. Similarly, college students whose families make less than particular thresholds go to college for free.
This also raises questions about what is an individual or private good? And what is a public good? Like k-12 education.

@adamjcook @edutooters That makes a lot of sense, and it requires at least a little analysis. I am seeing some IHEs, schools, and departments making knee jerk reactions with bans, policing policies etc... That don't seem as productive or thoughtful as your approach, which by the way I think applies more broadly to potentially facilitating rudimentary tasks, but being extremely limited in more complex tasks that we should be engaging students in. And rather than problematizing poor pedagogy we problematize a tool (though ChatGPT certainly has many other issues that are worthy of critique).

@JorgeStolfi @TEG @grimmiges @anne_kreft @jocelyn_etienne @academicchatter
PAR is probably used more in specific disciplines such as education. It positions participants, who in many traditions are viewed as "subjects" as active contributors and collaborators, viewed as people who can conduct research.

https://www.participatorymethods.org/glossary/participatory-action-research

PAR and YPAR (youth) often produce results that many in academia will marginalize.

One of my favorite examples of a YPAR project is this tree and work by Eve Tuck.
http://www.evetuck.com/problem-tree#:~:text=The%20problem%20tree%20is%20a%20useful%20approach%20to%20linking%20everyday,evident%20by%20their%20common%20roots.

@JorgeStolfi @TEG @grimmiges @anne_kreft @jocelyn_etienne @academicchatter yes, I get that, but I wanted to point out that the academy sets the rules of what counts as a researcher through various gate keepers that maintain power and privilege. To your point, what counts as a basketball player? Is it only a professional player who has traveled a particular path (who by the way also had particular opportunities that many or most others did not) or can it also include the person who plays every afternoon at the park?

The reactions to ChatGPT in education, both at the K-12 and Higher Ed level really remind me of some prior technology wars going back to...
Calculator bans (students will forget or not learn how to add and subtract)
Graphic calculator bans (students will store formulas and forget critical math formulas)
Word processor/typed paper bans (students will forget how to write in cursive and how to spell and do grammar)
Laptop bans (students will just cheat and Google everything)
Wikipedia use ban (students will use unreliable and entirely too easy to access information)
I know ChatGPT is "different" from these, but it's also the same.
What other "tech innovations" fall under this history?

@edutooters #edutooter #edutooters

@therealtomtom @academicchatter I think it's important to identify and be explicit about what promotes students' sense of belonging.
There is lots to be said about representation (i.e. other students, staff, teachers/faculty look like me and share my background)
There is lots to be said about being seen in curriculum.
There is lots to be said about learning things that matter to the students' community.
There is lots to be said about students' funds of knowledge, and their being positioned and knowers in classrooms.

@DesrochersLab @academicchatter @neuroscience
To read papers I typically take one of two approaches, sometimes in combination.
1) set aside/schedule time to do it so that time is protected in my day
2) read in partnership or community with someone else or a small group (book club, weekly reading club for example)

@JorgeStolfi @TEG @grimmiges @anne_kreft @jocelyn_etienne @academicchatter I think this also raises questions of what counts as "doing research" the academy as a whole has created criteria and hierarchies designed to privilege and marginalize. To your analogy. It's like only recognizing classical music with classic training as high quality performance, and "street music" as inferior.
I think about participatory action research and other methods that are often positioned as unworthy, which is really problematic.
I also think about people who push back on this and think more expansively. It is nice to see books like Street Data come out to create greater access.

https://books.google.com/books/about/Street_Data.html?id=MEATEAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&gboemv=1#v=onepage&q&f=false