@freemo New theory: you don't debate to win, you debate to make people improve their reasoning.
I did notice in the past that you stop replying when my reasoning gets detailed enough to be sound.
Re-engaging means it's not because winning was a priority.
So you just try to train some debating ability into people by tossing something controversial out there and go silent thumbs up if they manage to make some sense.
@freemo Maybe you want to add the cost of our instance?
Ok, trying to figure this out.
We have tons of people suffering, no clean drinking water or no money to buy food, health services available but fiscally out of reach.
So we want to improve on those things, generally. Not much of an argument, maybe a bit of "what to improve first", but generally i guess we all (most of us) want to do this.
Lots of distractions, like who gets killed more in a fight, rallying people to some flag. Some politicians fighting, but it is clear that both don't want to improve stuff for us, people rallying to one of them.
Why do we do this? Why not form a position and reason out with others how to do that? Are we so tribal that we just flock to a leader, are we that primitive?
What could i do, what could we do to improve? Is it as hopeless as it seems?
I understand that hatred and division is easier than explaining and understanding, but is there really no chance to get anything useful done?
Ok, new topic. Completely new topic.
If we're not making a push for working together and trying to get everyone a nice life, why not play dead?
It would be a lot less stress, just lying there hands and legs thrown out, no need to work or join any social function. If we'll starve to death soon anyway, i don't see the downside.
@jeffcliff testing, do double quote posts work?
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