“I don’t need to ask Ukrainians”

@dave yeah, he doesn't. forced conscription (aka very likely dead soon) is just evil.

Ukraine suspended conscription because they have more volunteers than they have capacity to train and effectively deploy. It’s just Russia that is doing forced conscription right now.

@dave it's irrelevant if they still do it or stopped it or that russia does it. the point is that the ukranian government has shown that it is willing to throw its citizens into the meat grinder by force. they can continue to do so at any moment.

Basically every country facing an existential threat conscripts its men, dude. Europe did it, we did it in WW2, etc.

We were facing an existential threat in WWII?

Once Japan attacked, I’d say yeah.

@dave @Tyler you really have a warped definition of "existential threat" if a bombed harbor is already enough for that :)