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@pants

you seem to be assuming that i'm discussing things in bad faith. maybe things came around wrong because i'm no native speaker?

- i'm sorry that you hate "edgy", but i think it describes certain things very well. that said, as long as _someone_ finds it funny, it's a joke. it may be a bad, tasteless one, but it's a joke.

- shaming people also isn't good. either the topic is important to you, then you have the obligation to try to change the views you don't like _or_ you ignore them. deciding that for someone else isn't the thing to do. secondly, just because the majority thinks i have shitty ideas doesn't mean that the ideas are shitty. it's good if i reflect upon if they are good or shitty, then maybe change my opinion. i won't change my opinion because someone tells me to, it doesn't work that way.

- it might surprise you that i do very well know what the nazis did, we learn rather much about that in school here.
maybe i've expressed myself wrong. i said that hating groups is what nazis do. you shouldn't take offense if i say that hating groups is wrong, look at the history in general.

@freemo @mathlover @swiley

@pants

- shitposter.club is listed blocked as "free speech". there may be edgy content there, but the blocking people act as if it's a pure nazi server. that's bullshit.

- i think that "silencing"/"deplatforming" or whatever one will call it is wrong. it's a broken strategy which doesn't work, it only has the potential to make things worse.

- to say nazis are bad but in essence doing the same thing, hating groups of people, is doublethink. i know that many hold a different view.

@freemo @mathlover @swiley

@mathlover i'm in germany and it's more than likely that we will have such a law, sooner or later. our highest court is rather good with delaying those things as they are often against the constitution, but laws are then refined so that they are at the exact limits of what's possible.

that said: i guess it's rather calm here compared to the US, but i don't like where it's going..

@freemo @swiley

@ulintl ich finde dezentrale ansätze sehr interessant :) aber wie in dem von dir verlinkten artikel beschrieben braucht es grade natürlich auch lösungen für das "große" stromnetz. auf jedenfall sehr spannende ansätze mit der verflüssigten luft und dem wärmespeicher. besonders wenn sie bei der luftverflüssigung mit ein paar verfeinerungen an die 70% effizienz hinbekommen wäre das wirklich gut.

ach, doppelposts find ich einfach nicht so gut.. komme mir dann immer ein bisschen wie ein spammer vor :)

@freemo
i was more going for "i want a safe-space-community-thing". why federate if you just want to talk to people of a really narrow mindset 🤷

> The issue is more so the inverse, where someone holds it against some user or server for **not** blocking someone.

it's racketeering. funny that those who think they are right always use those methods.

@mathlover @swiley

@mathlover what bothers me most with this reasoning is the view that other people are _too dumb_ to decide for themselves. it's essentially anti-humanist, contrary what those who hold it believe they are.

i'm getting a bit off-topic here: this school of thought has gotten a strong foothold in politics, that's why we get "anti-hate-speech" legislation. which will be applicable to everything in the end, as those laws always are.

@freemo @swiley

@freemo
> Its so rare in fact that its been the main attractive feature QOTO presents to new users in my expiernce.

it was one of the main reasons i've joined here. i have some years ago created an account at another server but never used it really.

when deciding to really invest some time into the fediverse, i looked at their block list, half of the blocks were because of "free speech". unsurprisingly, unsavory posts about right-wing people or the police were no problem on that instance. while any instance is free to block whomever they want to, it's a shame that so many people fall for the doublethink.

i get why people want a "safe haven" where they don't have to deal with ugly real life shit. a closed web forum might be better than a federated microblogging protocol for that though.

@mathlover @swiley

what if being a "functioning, productive member of society" isn't necessarily a great thing if you live in an unproductive, dysfunctional society

@thor it's the songs from my childhood blaring all time on the radio -> nostalgia :)

@thor even if back then i didn't like that kind of music, i really have to give the artists credit for that. no matter how _cheesy_ it was, they were singing in tune. it's kind of refreshing to hear that stuff now compared to current pop, but maybe that's just nostalgia :D

@rgegriff @lupyuen

somehow is missing from this list, while being systemd free all the time. maybe it's not "sexy" enough :)

"stable" 14.2 is a bit outdated, you could try slackware-current. it's rather stable for a bleeding-edge thing, probably because most things are kept vanilla and not patched to death.

if you want to try -current, AlienBOB creates unofficial installer ISOs for that:
slackware.nl/slackware/slackwa

version 15.0 should be ready sometime this year, if everything goes well.

@skunksarebetter @rgegriff @lupyuen

> From a regular user's perspective; it won't affect you. systemd would very likely benefit you.

until you try to setup a vpn with networkmanager and systemd-resolved manages to be even more broken in regards of updating your resolvers than any hack used previously. welcome to hell.

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