bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 @bonifartius@social.cleverlibre.org

@niclas @lola i only use streaming service for the tubers i watch, and even then i think about downloading the videos just out of principle. i need to hook up yt-dlp to rss feeds.. :)

@niclas @lola i want to pay for it but i hate "streaming only". i want a download :)

@scientist @yogthos @zleap
i have some problems with this:

the technical one is that "gaslighting" is an absolute bullshit term in itself. it requires knowledge of some obscure play to understand.

another is that it is a direct accusation of insincerity. it immediately kills any discussion by declaring the opponent as insincere - in almost every case i witnessed because one got in an uncomfortable corner in the discussion.

yet another problem is that the concept itself is insincere: it requires the "gaslit" to be in a state on unsuspecting victimhood and elevates the accuser into something "above" it.

this either means that the accusation voids itself: you can't be gaslit if you don't believe the lie - the accused then just is lying.

alternatively it means the accuser is "better" than others: for example by saying the fossil fuel industry is "gaslighting" the consumers one place oneself above the consumers. they are too stupid to see the lies and require the enlightened accuser to save them.

lastly, the concept of "implicit gaslighting" is best described by itself :)

@scientist @yogthos @zleap
> If only the majority were willing and able to follow that principle. Or 🤔 perhaps the majority are

the majority which is non-violent and does a crazy amount of unpaid work in one form or another because they believe it's the right thing.

> [...] BUT, a minority make it very difficult to uphold our non-violent standards.

> [...] For example, some governments [...]

other minorities don't have the power to beat you up and kidnap you without having to fear you or someone else exercising self-defense.

sidenote: you should maybe think about the inflationary use of the term "gaslighting" ;)