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@thor well, the example was water in a tank. for the water to have (usable) potential energy, the tank has to be raised above the ground, the distance is measured from the ground to the water line in the tank.

@thor the potential of water is also measured between two points to be a potential

@timorl i assume in reality we'd get different measures. just like with expensive booze being in locked, surveilled cabinets now.

i think it's much more effective to lower the prices of ethical food by increased consumption than raising the price of the other stuff by sabotaging the supply.

regarding shitpostiness: i've seen much worse ideas displayed as true convictions ;)

@timorl you still create demand with it by consuming the product, you steal from only the last part of the chain.

Hi fedi, glad to have some more news for you. Today we've launched our webchat and Tor onion services.

Webchat is available at: web.libera.chat/

And information on connection via Tor is available here: libera.chat/guides/connect#acc

Please note: Tor requires an existing account with CertFP/ECDSA challenge configured.

We know that these gateways, and Matrix, are a big deal to some projects, so I hope we can continue to welcome projects and hopefully we have news about Matrix tomorrow!

@trinsec yeah, may was very rainy here too. i try to do stuff in a more permaculture-way though, so i don't try to fight the snails and slugs. would be futile anyway, with as many as there are :D the fava beans aren't really touched by them, they like radishes very much though ;)

@trinsec i also have endive, onions and chard planted, but i've yet to see if they survive this weather and the slugs (of which are many because of the weather) :)

@arh@toots.alirezahayati.com @iron_bug sure, most words have some clear dictionary definition, but some are so full of different definitions that it's hard to have a discussion using them. i tend to value discussion about things more than discussion about words. especially in a medium full of non native english speakers.

@trinsec well, tomatoes are in the list of things which are a bit too flimsy without help.

the fava beans are doing really good, i was wondering if there are any other plants like that.

i want a proper greenhouse (with stone north wall to store heat for the night etc.) at some point, but currently don't have the time to build it.

@arh@toots.alirezahayati.com @iron_bug what about anarchism, to use a less loaded word? i think there are too many definitions of "socialism", two people can mean completely different things with it. especially regarding different cultural background and experiences.

@arh@toots.alirezahayati.com @iron_bug judging from the outside, i have the slight suspicion that you are actually more on the same page than it seems: fair pay for your work and not someone else lining their pockets with what isn't theirs to have. regardless if it's capitalist bosses or socialist functionaries who are greedy and inhumane.

@FroehlichMarcel @fedisearch it kind of depends where you look here though. people on qoto (and numerous other instances) are pretty sane in this regard.

@FroehlichMarcel @fedisearch

interesting, though it again requires a central hub, so it isn't really the best solution.

the problem is that there are many people who consider the thought that their posts on a public internet platform are indexed by FTS unbearable. that these posts probably are already indexed by the big search engines and just hidden from the search results is irrelevant.

people who want to build FTS are facing outrage and defederations, funnily enough even from instances which are operated by people who should know better that it is an inherent property of the protocol.

it's more about the feeling of being in control than the reality of how much control there can be.

i hope i now haven't painted a too dire picture of the fediverse, many people are quite relaxed here. i haven't joined that long ago, but it is a much much nicer thing for me than twitter or other sites ever were :)

question to the people:

any recommendations for vegetables native (or at least very long use since prehistoric times) to europe (oceanic climate)? many things which are from the new world are too flimsy for this climate without a greenhouse.

vicia faba grows pretty nice here, as do things like radishes.

@FroehlichMarcel there were/are projects which do that (@fedisearch , but that seems down now).

your best bet is really a big instance like qoto which sees many other servers and then search for hashtags.

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