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@velartrill
> i don't really agree that we should have to trust anything running on our computers simply because we can't all individually formally verify the source code of everything we run.

one also trusts the mechanic to properly fix brakes on the car. of course i can't verify everything on my computer, but i can choose to rely on due diligence from others i trust. if not, i can as well stop using computers (which would probably be a good idea :)

given how common it is for many people to have docker stuff running as root or just curl | sh installing stuff, the X11 security model is really.. not the thing i'd be worried about.

i bet there are other ways to keylog even with the wayland security measures. the only way to security is to just not run random garbage on your system. unfortunately we're getting there with snaps and flatpaks and docker.

"but it's all containerized!111" - you can also break out from xen hypervisor stuff. those things were never designed for security.

@cnx

> Schon seit Pfingsten grassieren unter den Kids Infektionen, das RS-Virus schlägt aber besonders seit dem Ende der Sommerferien zu.

(tagesschau.de/inland/rs-virus-)

"kids"? was? öffentlich rechtlich ist echt nur noch peinlich langsam.

weird fedi take
if people won't even stand up for having things forcibly injected in their bodies, what makes you think they're going to stand up for the trivial shit like 'less working hours'

@cnx @velartrill
note that i'm not a wayland expert..

it's not that the x api is good, more that the choices wayland made are not good, imho. e.g. i think that the way window managers are done with x11 is good. that other client windows can read the screen and input devices on X is based on the assumption that your X clients are trustworthy. wayland seems do think otherwise, missing that anything on your computer should be trustworthy in the first place.

@velartrill i really like drew devaults stuff, but his fandom of wayland is mistaken imho.

i just hope X11 development doesn't end up slowing down or stopping due to wayland adoption by the pleb DEs

@velartrill i think how sane people are has much to do with how distributed, multimedia affine ("sharing" pictures, videos, etc.), and restricted in design a platform/protocol is. a cube of sanity, if you want ;)

@lebronjames75 this seems like the kind of thing that was created to make a satirical point, but that the ruling class will unironically love

@velartrill
> minimization of human suffering or appeasing the pod-beings from Alpha Proxima so they stop beaming nightmares about man-carrot vampire hybrids into our brains from their transdimensional portal complex in retrograde orbit around jupiter

_based_ as the kids would say!

@velartrill i think it didn't hurt me, but then i was hanging out in irc and playing team fortress classic, not doing vanity stuff on myspace :) it was _cool_ if you had your own page, not something social media pleb. i knew some artsy photography girls who even did their own pages.

@velartrill
what really is disturbing that the vegan fish sticks actually smell like fish. however they do _that_.

the youtube channel of john campbell is really nice. he is rather good in explaining scientific stuff for the laymen while staying scientific and not falling down the common over-simplification trap (or notices if he does). the nice thing about this his approach of just explaining interesting papers is that, critics can't really argue that he's unscientific :)

@yogthos@mastodon.social so billionaires want to have "strange days".

First let's have some tea.

I may be sick but I have my priorities straight.

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