bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 @bonifartius@social.cleverlibre.org

@mangeurdenuage if it's any solace, in germany we probably have all our services now running in some kind of shitty cloud across the atlantic. good that we have those data protection agreements

@sim @coldacid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(Dante)#Fifth_Circle_(Wrath) ?

@redfrog from my experience, ecologically farmed regional stuff stayed largely the same in prices.

it's almost as if fresh strawberries in wintertime really don't make any sense.

@tripu let's just say that after the last years i'd fully expect governments to shut down power to hinder movement. if they can do it selectively via smart grid stuff all the better for them.

i know i'm in fully unhinged tinfoil mode, i don't see a reason why i shouldn't be though. it's a shame that things which are great from a technical perspective always enable dictatorship. smart grids do make perfect sense, but the way they are done just enables things like shutting down all EV charging to stop people from going anywhere. i can go for ~1000km with a full tank of diesel, i can extend this by carrying cans of fuel. fossil fuels just have a very good energy density. i can get in the car now and drive 1000km non stop if i want to, which is pretty amazing if you think about it.

one probably could design smart grids in a way that they are autonomous and cooperative, not centrally controlled. won't happen though, the lure of power and lazyness of implementers will not let that happen. they will say that there will be people gaming the system as if you couldn't design around that. just account for say 5% assholes or something like that. it's pure unwillingness on the state and big tech side, nobody wants to give up control.

my biggest criticism for the environmental friendliness of EV is that the costs are just externalized to some 3rd or 2nd world country where lithium and rare earth metals are extracted. it's just pushed to sell some new technology, not to save the planet.

@tripu well, if it fits your bill! :)

my problems with EV are that they aren't remotely as environmentally friendly as they are said to be and that one is totally dependent on the power grid. with an internal combustion engine i can just have some 20L jerrycans stored and transported at nearly no cost for indefinite periods. with a 20€/1000L bottle of additive even diesel can be stored for a long time. i think such a reserve can be very valuable, especially in these times. i'm an unhinged tinfoil head though :)