what’s next [after the equality act]? racial identity? can someone identify as a minority [for benefits]? i mean we’ve already seen it happen — David Freiheit

@icedquinn Personally I think we are going about it backwards.. we shouldnt be treating women, or minorities as special groups or give them special treatment (regardless of if they face unique challenges), therefore problem solved, be a minority if you want, who cares.

That isnt that there is no problem or that the problem isnt to be solved. But if we solve the problem for all poor, for example, then by extension we are already helping challenged groups (who are more likely to be poor) as a result.

@freemo in the case of gendered sports its literally because women are, en masse, scientifically, inferior to the point they can't compete.

it's not "men's sports" and "women's sports," they are "sports leagues" and "women's leagues" for the reason of you have potentially 300m citizens in the USA and there are maybe <100 slots to put in the sports league.

the womens leagues are a concession so they can play sports at all.

this is why the whole 'no trans in womens sports' is a big deal.
@icedquinn @freemo if we had to give up women's sports leagues and have tranny bathrooms in order to wipe out all discriminatory race and sex based affirmative action programs, i would be 100% for it
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@meowski

You wouldnt.. transexuals and transgendered people do not want their own bathrooms or an elimination of sports leagues all together.. They want to be included, not to have other excluded.

@icedquinn

@freemo @icedquinn they want to be "included" in the wrong thing, thus negating the entire point
@freemo @meowski @icedquinn stop pandering to the mentally ill. But we both know you don't have a choice, the cultists have taken over academia and made your entire world a clown world joke, how embarrassing :^)

@crunklord420

I wonder if you realize how pathetic you look when you talk like that.. probably not. You sound like a nut job who is so messed up and miserable all they have left in life is to try to troll random strangers they dont know and hope someone for once will at least acknowledge you...

get a life.

@icedquinn @meowski

@freemo @crunklord420 @icedquinn not this shit again. didn't we just teach you about primary sex determination last week?

@meowski

I remember a few people adding some good points and then a bunch of morons who cared more about some religious or obnoxious agenda and prejudice than facts.

I dont remember which one you were, so likely didnt say anything new or remarkable

Also that conversation and post was not about primary sex characteristics, it was about sex, as a whole.

@icedquinn @crunklord420

@meowski

Must be great living in a world that is that simple.. wish it were more than a fantasy, would make my job much easier.

@icedquinn @crunklord420

@freemo @icedquinn @crunklord420
this is a pretty good breakdown of the progressive libtard criteria for intersex. true intersex is actually far less common than progressives claim

https://colinwright.substack.com/p/intersex-is-not-as-common-as-red

@meowski

"true intersex"... lol your literally pulling the no true scotsman fallacy right now. I love how you just get to dictate what "true intersex" is and all of science and professionals who life is devoted to this stuff be damned.

Move along your wasting my time.

@icedquinn @crunklord420

@freemo @meowski @icedquinn academia is a joke, you've just demonstrated it. Do not make appeals to authority, it's pathetic and invalid.
@crunklord420 @freemo @icedquinn

primary sex determination in humans happens at conception. this applies in 99.9% of cases:

the egg has an X

if the sperm has a Y, baby is male

if the sperm has an X baby is female

@meowski

No one said anything about "primary sex", on the previous post and this one I never once even used the word primary... so not sure what your on about.

@icedquinn @crunklord420

@freemo @icedquinn @crunklord420
i said "primay sex determination"
that's what determines whether you're male or female, which is the thing you libtards cant seem to get through your thick heads

@meowski

Ok well considering you clearly have no clue what your talking about (and said several incorrect statements already).. and have the maturity of a toddler, I can see why I dont remember you and why you arent worth my attention, bye.

@icedquinn @crunklord420

@freemo @meowski @crunklord420 mfw i'm the only person in the room with literally zero credentials :blobcatadorable:

@icedquinn

your the only one in the room saying anything worthy of listening to.. you have more credentials than most of the schmucks on this thread.

@meowski @crunklord420

@freemo @icedquinn @crunklord420 haha oh really what did i say that's incorrect? your arguments are pathetic. you have nothing

@meowski

If you wanted to have that conversation you should have considered it before having the maturity of a 2 year old.

I said good bye, next step is muting you. I wont engage with people who dont engage respectfully, it isnt worth my time. Your complete lack of credentials is secondary to that and would not effect if i wanted to engage you or not usually.

@icedquinn @crunklord420

@freemo @icedquinn @crunklord420 in other words, you have nothing but your supposed phd and you'r scared to actually discuss science

bye, go curl up in a ball and cry yourself to sleep
@freemo @icedquinn @crunklord420 true intersex, as in genuinely neither male nor female. non binary.

you should stick to computer science or whatever you're supposedly an expert at. you're talking out your ass as usual

@meowski

Actually biology is one of the fields I have a degree in, and I worked on the human genome project and other projects in the field (most the genetics side).. though I would not really call myself a biologist either. But I do have more than enough credentials and professional expiernce in the field to understand the topic.

What were your credentials, I dont recall, like i said I dont even remember you saying anything in the past on this topic particularly insightful or meaningful so I dont recall much about your expertise.

@icedquinn @crunklord420

@freemo @icedquinn @crunklord420 i do bioinformatics. you don't need to worry about my credentials. i'm not here to impress you with letters after my name

@meowski

I dont care about the letters after your name, I care about what skills you have proven yourself to have. That can be in the form of published scientic articles, peer-review, recognition of accomplishments by professionals, or involvement as a member of a project in the field... credentials are a lot more than some letters.

I am literally asking you "have you accomplished anything in your life to show you have expertise in this topic"... sounds like your answer is no then

@icedquinn @crunklord420

@freemo @icedquinn @crunklord420 why would i post anything about myself irl here on fedi with a bunch of deranged libtards here who go ballistic when you say anything as simple as sex is determined at conception
@meowski @freemo @icedquinn don't you know science is a process of comparing ranks in the cathedral? kek
@crunklord420 @meowski @freemo @icedquinn
Especially in the soft sciences...though if you try to make up shit in STEM they throw you out (though only when it becomes an embarrassment)
@crunklord420 @freemo @icedquinn @meowski
True that... mathematics is really the epitome of the cathedral...
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@meowski

Ahh right all of science is a big conspiracy and lie.. only the science you made up and pulled our of your ass is the real science.. makes so much sense now...

Yea im muting you now, you have no value to add to any conversation.

@icedquinn @crunklord420

@meowski @crunklord420 @freemo @icedquinn I worked in clinical research, can confirm.
Everyone wants to discover something new and unintuitive, so validating someone else's finding is a rare sight, and the confirmation bias is real.
Not to mention that intuition, being a product of millions of years of evolution, isn't often wrong, so when you see a study with some fantastic find that seems too good to be true... it isn't true.
@SystemSock @meowski @crunklord420 @freemo we are ultimately forced to make continuous decisions before we have all the data we would like and we are in a permanent state of having to make binding decisions with imperfect information.

@icedquinn

The system isnt perfect and yes there are biases, its fine to be critical and not treat a published study as god and truth... no issues there.. But when you assume all studies are crap, even ones where there is complete consensus, and you do so with no evidence or expeirnce of your own, then your just foolish in the other direction.

As you said, its the best system we have so far, and while anti-science is coming up with nonsense like a 4000 year old earth, and the world being flat science is still right far more often than the alternative.

It really just comes down to understanding where the line is between reality and fringe science that **may** be true but has a lot of unknowns.

@meowski @crunklord420 @SystemSock

@freemo @icedquinn @meowski @SystemSock the consensus mechanisms of academia is completely broken and if you bet against peer reviewed papers you'd be right more than 50% of the time. It's literally worse than a coin flip, how embarassing.
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@freemo @icedquinn @crunklord420 @SystemSock here comes the flat earth talk. really weak. let's stay on topic. this isn't helpful
@freemo @icedquinn @meowski @crunklord420 @SystemSock
the existence of "gender" and the idea of sex being fluid (and racial and sexual "equality" for that matter) are just as nonsensical as the 4000 year old earth but people who supposedly believe in "science" believe in them.
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@freemo @icedquinn @meowski

"If you believe that there is a replication crisis in academia that leads to legitimate distrust in academic credentialism then you must also believe the Earth is flat"

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@freemo @meowski @icedquinn @crunklord420 true would mean having both an actual working dick and actual working womb.
@PepeWalnuts @freemo @crunklord420 @icedquinn
even not meeting these criteria does not mean a person is not male or female. you can have erectile dysfunction and be male. you can be infertile and be female.
@freemo @icedquinn @meowski that's not a very academic response. What would a I-Am-Very-Smart ledditor like yourself say? Ad-hominem?

When you try to play gymnastics to justify this clown world shit it just reveals how you've been forced to hold this fence-sitting position for fear that you will be professionally destroyed if you approached this with any real reasoning or logic. You are a hypocrite and your entire "profession" has been rendered a laughable joke. You're the doctors who denied germ theory out of fear and cargo cultist group-think. You're a slave to the cult, a domesticated pleb for the cathedral.

@crunklord420

Sorry, I really have no interest in reading anything you have to say that doesnt start with an apology at this point.. waste energy on replying all you want but be warned ill mostly just read a word or two, roll my eyes, and move on. Not because of your opinions, but because of the pathetic way you express them.

@icedquinn @meowski

@freemo @icedquinn @meowski you're a fraud and a hypocrite. You literally cannot make a reasonable response because like I said, we both know you are forced to hold an unscientific position because that is what the religious cult requires of you, and you are their slave.

@crunklord420

wow you must really be a horribly broken person if your so desperate for confirmation your still talking even when you know what you are saying isnt even being red... sad, very sad.

I hope you find some happiness one day and get past your issues.

@icedquinn @meowski

@freemo @icedquinn @meowski no one believes you, you're coping. You know what I say is true.

@crunklord420

going to mute you for 24 hours just so i dont accidentally read something you say, have fun chatting away with me, clearly you dont need me for the conversation.

@icedquinn @meowski

going to fuck u in the mouth for 24 hours so u can kno what it's like to stfu up for a minute

@freemo @crunklord420 @icedquinn @meowski
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