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Can anyone suggest a candidate other than Biden or Trump that look fairly moderate and a good choice? I have ruled out all third-party, all alternative democrats, and of course Trump... This leaves me thinking maybe one of the republican candidates are worth voting for but so far every one of those I checked out are pretty horrific too...
Is there even one candidate that is remotely a reasonable and moderate choice?
@freemo There was this "sanders" that sounded halfway reasonable. What happened to him?
@admitsWrongIfProven @freemo He said "moderate"
@LouisIngenthron @freemo Oh, survival of the human race is not an option. Noted.
@admitsWrongIfProven @freemo Have you *seen* how humans behave?
No, I think a prerequisite to survival is, y'know, "wanting to survive" and it seems like a majority of our species is ambivalent to that at best.
@LouisIngenthron @freemo Well, this "sanders" person seems to try. I cannot claim such, i am complacant in our demise. Supportive, even. It is ok if there are no more humans.
@admitsWrongIfProven @freemo That's not an unreasonable position to be in.
As for trying, the Crusaders were trying to make the world a better place by spreading the word of Christ; how well did that work out?
Trying is only half the battle. *How* you try is equally as important, and that's where the issues with Sanders arise.
@admitsWrongIfProven @freemo Ah, I see @freemo beat me to it.
@LouisIngenthron @freemo Afaik the dems pushed him out illegally?
@admitsWrongIfProven @freemo Not to my knowledge. He just lost the primary, like he always does.
More complicated than that... He won the primaries one year in terms of direct votes.. but despite him winning the "normal" vote the superdelegates override this and he was denied the primary anyway.
Its kind of ironic cause people yell and scream about Trump being elected despite not winning the popular vote when they do this regularly within their own party.
@freemo @admitsWrongIfProven Well, yeah, because a party's inner workings don't have to be democratic. Most regular folks don't participate in them anyway, so it's already skewed towards political insiders. That seems more reasonable to me than nonsense like the electoral college for the actual vote.
There is no legal requirement a party need be democratic, no.. but if they elect not to be they deserve ridicule and a lack of support.
@freemo @LouisIngenthron At least that much is clear. And we can all rest easy: the others don't get the easy life either. We all suffer. Ain't that nice.
I want everyone to have the easiest life possible... the problem is a lot of people dont know how to achieve that and the way they think they can accomplish that often does the opposite.
@freemo @LouisIngenthron Yeah, eating the rich might pose some ethical problems to normal folks.
Yup, they would be quite surprised after they destroy the biggest wealth producers in society and trigger massive starvation and death for everyone... good intentions dont get you very far, least of all when you do the exact opposite of whats best for society.
That isnt to say that there arent issues to address with the rich, there are, but if your going to eliminate rich people all together, you might as well just cover yourself in honey and go hug a bear, your chance of coming out of it with something positive to show would be much higher.
@freemo @LouisIngenthron That is about what society is trying, and every bit of not caring i can muster helps my sanity.
I think a lot of people disconnect and stop caring to remain sane... nothing wrong with that.
@freemo @LouisIngenthron Nothing wrong with humanity ending, i would say.
I generally love people talking to each other, to create something, to improve themselfs and their surroundings. Creating wealth is an antithesis, an entirely different goal.
you literally just described generating wealth when you said "improve themselfs and their surroundings" and then went on to say its an antithesis... this makes no sense.
Most people confuse "generate wealth" with "aquire money"... these are totally different things with very little related to eachother... You can move wealth around, you can aquire wealth... but unless you provide a utility to the world you arent generating wealth.
@freemo @LouisIngenthron What do you *think* people in the position to make rules are doing? Helping others, because ethics?
@freemo @LouisIngenthron Exactly.