🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@olamundo No worries, your under no obligation to file a bug. Though keep in mind to do so would require no git knowledge, that is done all throught he web interface.

@amerika

I dunno, I think america has become the HQ for ideological quests in many ways. I generally see americans as being extremists in everything. Most americans are radically ideological, while others dont care much at all about ideological quests, there is very little middle ground.

Contrast that with europe where most people tend to be centrist with a small minority at the ideological extremes.

@arteteco

@olamundo Ahh ok, definately a bug that needs fixing then, thanks for letting me know.

Would you be willing to file a bug on git itself? It would be really helpful so i can catalog and track the problem.

@amerika

That may or may not be a bad thing.. They tend to be made of glass or carbon composite so im not sure there is much need to recycle them as we have a surplus as it. I'd have to investigate a bit more to have strong opinion on this particular case but in general recycling for the sake of recycling isnt always the best answer, sometimes that makes things worse and does nothing to help (as is the case with most plastics).

@2ck @kravietz

@pganssle Nice! congrats! Excited?

@olamundo That is interesting, and a good catch.. No ideally I dont think it should be seeing characters inside tags as formatting characters... The question is, when a tag is formatting does the person still get tagged or does it also break the tagging and linkin of the account at the same time?

@amerika

I do agree that consumption is part of the equation, but I think your looking at the wrong sorts of consumption. Personal computers, personal usage of lights, disposable products use by individuals, for those most part these are a very very small portion of the consumption or the issue.

If we want to worry about the consumption side of the equation, as we should, then the places to focus would be mostly around shipping, fuel used by boats and planes to ship packages is by far the biggest part of that equation, to the point that the usage of your lights is irrelevant.

Also disposable products is a bit in the middle, depends on which products.. plastics for example are unusual as they are secondary products, so reducing your consumption of throw away plastic actually has no positive impact of any kind. But throwing away electronic devices is a bigger issue in that sense.

@2ck @kravietz

QOTO's **Managed Groups** server will be opening registration later today.

Ok so QOTO's managed groups appears stable. It ran all night without any errors, it appears to be behaving itself, and all the basic features are working as expected.

Today I just need to fix some minor things (mail delivery) and should be able to open the server up for public registration soon.

If you want to register for a managed group stay tuned, should open up very shortly.

@kravietz

Space consumption in my eyes is a far more valid concern for wind and solar than toxic waste is. It is one reason I tend to support nuclear, as I dont like the idea of wind turbines taking over what little space we have.. Solar i dont mind as it mostly tends to take up roof tops so it doesn't tend to consume space we aren't already consuming. but wind turbines tend to take up new land and I dont like that.

@2ck

@kravietz

Yes ultimately you'd have to do what most science papers on the topic do.. Evaluate toxic waste produced by a solar panel with the amount of energy it produces in a life time.. the amount of toxicwaste per watt hour, then do the same with fossil fuels... As becomes obvious fossil fuels are many many orders of magnitude higher.

Nuclear is another matter though, I see nuclear as mostly green and put it in a similar category s wind and solar.

@2ck

@kravietz

Sure thats fair, but you need to understand the perportions here. Cadmium makes up a very very small fraction of a solar panel, far less than 1% of its weight. So while there are some toxic materials in minute quantities that only becomes significant when you have very large amounts of waste, which of course will happen when everyone is using solar panels. But the point is the amount of toxic waste in terms of percentages is infinitesimal, not that it should be ignored, but that ratio is important when evaluating a solution that is going to have minimal negative impact.

@2ck

@mur2501 Also notice it only reboosts top-level mentions and doesn't do so on replies.. Thus allowing posts tot he group to form threads without the group reposting every reply at top level.

@kravietz

Toxic waste is waste which is significantly poisonous to humans, by definition.

Gearbox oil would be considered toxic waste for example, and obviously is miniscule compared to the amount of oil it prevented the consumption of in its lifetime. Plus we already have good recycling infrastructure when it comes to used oil. So there is that added benefit that the oil isnt even being consumed in that case and just gets recycled anyway.

@2ck

@kravietz

There are always extremists and idealists on any side of an issue.

@2ck

@mur2501 to an extent.. though it isnt a bot that feature is baked into the server itself, but yea in a sense it is.

The big difference is subtle but important. The groups are tagged as a "Group" actor type.. so the servers themselves know the account is special and it is a group. Therefore the clients will render it differently. If you go to the profile for the group it doesnt show the posts as boosts (even though they are under the hood), it just appears as if they were posts directly to the group.

So while the mechanism itself isnt all that special it has the desired effect whereby there is a space where people can post to that is shared by anyone else who joined that same space. It shouldn't look like a boost if your server handles and recognizes the group like qoto does.

The advantage of it being done this way is that it still works if you happen to be on a client that for some reason doesnt support groups (say an old version).

@arteteco Yea I think you are right in that regard, the USA has a lot more energy being focused on economic ventures.

@kravietz

You think it is a problem with privacytools.io? Could be, I dont recall seeing a notification anyway.

@2ck

@2ck

The recycling of solar panels and wind turbines is a perfectly reasonable concern.. but to call them "toxic waste" is a bit of a leap. A wind turbine is essentially a bit of copper wire, a magnet, and some metal, there is little if anything toxic about it. As for solar panels, they to have very little toxic components, particularly if they are RoHS compliant in which case they wont even have lead (pretty much the only significant toxic component).

So really we are talking about regular old waste here, not toxic waste. Like i said while that should be addressed its hardly a counter point considering the massive amount of things we use in our daily life and toss that are far more concerning in terms of waste. Hell every personal computer has far more lead in it than a wind turbine or solar panel.

@kravietz

@mur2501

It worked, if you click on the QOTO group profile to bring it up youll see your post in the group!

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