🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@FourOh-LLC

If you want me to continue to engage with your shit-show of a confirmation bias you need to first do one of two things...

1) admit you were uninformed earlier and your earlier points were incorrect

2) start demonstrating actual citations from the Qu'ran

If you dont do these things you are just wasting my time because all I have to engage with is your fantasy delusion rather than actual facts which you seem to ignore when they clearly prove you wrong.

@deavmi @jeff @cjd @thatguyoverthere @georgetakei

@FourOh-LLC

> Then, why are you protecting Islam, why are you protecting Muslims, and why are you call me a liar?

Because Unlike you I **actually** live up to the ideal you claimed to (and dont):

"Remember, the facts about Islam and Communism must come to light"

> What's you purpose in this anyways?

My purpose is to stop people like you from making up things that are clearly proven to be wrong with just a moments research into the Qu'ran... Because the **truth** is more important than using **lies** to perpetuate hate.

> Islam, the Quran indoctrinates people, it punishes Muslim according to law which is considered barbaric by 21st Century standards.

Islam cant make laws, islam isnt a person, it can not punish anyone.

**People** enact laws, and it is the people who punish.

Besides you've spewed such horrendously inaccurate claims about what the Qu'ran says, and did nothing to back it up when disproven, that is it very clear you are in no way knowledgable enough to make any claims about Islam.. you make up your opinions and spew them, and really dont care at all about the actual facts.

> What are you arguing here?

The truth and pointing out your intent to lie about things you could easily confirm to be lies, but uttered anyway in an attempt to progress hate instead of truth.

@deavmi @jeff @cjd @thatguyoverthere @georgetakei

@FourOh-LLC

> Ah, this explains all the kidnapping, the suicide bombers, the call for Jihad.

Actions by people, not the Qu'ran... as has already been explained, plenty of people have and will use religion or any other ideology to try to justify their evil.. thats on the people, not the texts they manipulate.

> An infidel explains the Quaran to another infidel must be also respected greatly.

Why are you using random arabic words when we are speaking english.. here ill fix that for you:

> An atheist explains the Quaran to another atheist must be also respected greatly.

You dont even know what religion I am, let alone if I am atheist... you really do just make up whatever narrative you want and go with it huh?

@deavmi @jeff @cjd @thatguyoverthere @georgetakei

@FourOh-LLC

> I am not worried about my credibility.

That is quite clear considering your pattern of lying and misinformation rooted in hate.

> Remember, the facts about Islam and Communism must come to light. Currently there are plenty of games in town which is going to do just that, what I write here is not part of that.

Yes they do, and you lying, with no attempt at integrity is very much contrary to that.

> You proposed that its criminally-minded people who turn the Quaran into something evil.

No, I said nothing about criminality.

> I say its the Quaran who creates evil men.

Yes, I know you do, and then try to justify that with a complete ignorance on its content which has easily been disproven by quoting it directly... meanwhile other than you stating hatred have done nothing to successfully advance your argument other than out right lies about what the texts themselves say.

> I stand by that, I have been standing by that for decades.

Yes, it is very clear you have no problem standing by lies no matter how much evidence to disprove them is presented.... yea I get that, thus why you lack credibility at this point.

@deavmi @jeff @cjd @thatguyoverthere @georgetakei

@FourOh-LLC

Here are some more quotes from Hadith and the Quran that quite clearly state that non-muslims still need to be treated with love and compassion (implying honesty from above as part of that):

“Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity.” -- al-Mumtahanah 60:8

“Whoever kills a mu‘ahid (a non-Muslim living under Muslim rule) will not smell the fragrance of Paradise.” -- al-Bukhari, 2995

@deavmi @jeff @cjd @thatguyoverthere @georgetakei

@FourOh-LLC

> Have it occurred to your that the Quran is referring to its own microcosms? It warns against Muslims who are not honest and not righteous Muslims.

Ummm, yea of **course** its talking about how followers of the Quran (Muslims) should be honest... why you expect it dictate that christians have to be honest?

This response doesnt even make sense.

> The rules change when the Muslim deals with infidels. They are not "protected" by those tenants.

Oh so now we are just making stuff up that the Quran says that it never says... None of the quotes about truthfulness even **hint** that the truthfulness only needs to be with other muslims. Thats something you pulled out of your ass to try to change what it actually says to be right.... This move lost you **all** credibility.

> Unlike the teachings of Jesus, the Quaran is bigoted and merciless with ANYONE who is not the servant of Allah.

Responding to evidence by just saying a thing that isnt true and contrary to that evidence isnt going to make it true.

@deavmi @jeff @cjd @thatguyoverthere @georgetakei

@olireiv

Hi, COVID-19 research scientist here.

There has been no significant evidence to suggest the evolution of the virus has accelerated post omicron.

There is still danger around the virus as there was since day one as a virus that can kill. But no there hasnt been some leap in evolution beyond what we already know and expect for this virus.

@FourOh-LLC

Sounds like you never read the quran then. honesty is a central tenant of the religion. Here are quotes from the Quran and Hadith disproving this statement:

"be with those who are ever truthful." -- Quran, 9:119

"truthfulness is certainty and tranquility, whilst lying is doubt and confusion " -- Tirmidhi, 2520

“I enjoin you to be truthful, for truthfulness leads to righteousness and righteousness leads to Paradise. A man may continue to tell the truth and endeavor to be truthful until he is recorded with Allah as a speaker of truth. And beware of lying, for lying leads to wickedness and wickedness leads to Hell. A man may continue to tell lies and endeavor to tell lies until he is recorded with Allah as a liar.” -- Muslim, 2607

@deavmi @jeff @cjd @thatguyoverthere @georgetakei

@cjd

I found quite the opposite expiernce. I had switched to duck duck go for a few weeks... constantly wouldnt get good hits. Had to switch back to google a few days ago.

@deavmi @jeff @FourOh-LLC @thatguyoverthere @georgetakei

@FourOh-LLC

> Leaving Islam is a death sentence.
> Hating on Islam is a death sentence.
> Insulting Mohamed is a death sentence.

Not because of the religion, because of tyrannical people who use the religion.

There are tones of examples of Tyranny, and its always caused by people... north korea is a fine example if you want one.

@deavmi @jeff @cjd @thatguyoverthere @georgetakei

@georgetakei

An influencer named Chris? :)

@mur2501 Oh nice, did you submit a push for that as well, ill review shortly.

@FourOh-LLC

Islam is not tyrannical.. however tyrannical people have often co-opted religion for their end.

@deavmi @jeff @cjd @thatguyoverthere @georgetakei

@FourOh-LLC

> This is Free Speech not inciting violence, if you are ready to read passed the first two sentences.

By the USA legal definition this would probably never be seen as inciting violence.

1) You are not advocating violent imminetntly so doesnt meet this criteria.

2) No reasonable person would expect this phrase to cause those listening to imminently rise up in violence.

@deavmi @jeff @cjd @thatguyoverthere @georgetakei

@realcaseyrollins hahaha, #facts

@cjd

Even then the speech itself is not illegal, it is the action, or potential actions is illegal.

This is clear because if you say "Everyone should rise up and kill Bob"... that is **only** illegal if it is likely to produce the action of people **immenetely** rising up and killing bill. In other words, a reasonable person must expect that such speech will have a particular illegal outcome.

If, for example, that exact same phrase were uttered to a group where a reasonable person would expect the group would not actually follow the instructions, then there are no legal consequences.

In other words the speech is always legal, it is the consequences, or the **intent** that makes it illegal, not the words themselves.

@deavmi @jeff @thatguyoverthere @georgetakei

"There was a moment today I was worried we might actually survive" -- Worf in Picard

#StarTrek #Picard #Quote #Quotes

@FourOh-LLC

Well your going beyond legal now, and that is ok... Your arguing we need forums where speech wont be censored... On that I mostly agree. But it doesnt mean people need to be willing to listen to you... so you can always start your own website but I am under no obligation to let you post on mine.

@deavmi @jeff @cjd @thatguyoverthere @georgetakei

@FourOh-LLC

My guess would be if some entity denied a post to be made, and then edited that post and made it for them, and they either didnt let the person have the control to take it down, or the post was modified in a way that the modification is directly responsible for some illegal consequences... then I'd expect the person editing and posting the post on the main users behalf wold be guilty.

However if the person still controls taking down their post, or the parts edited cant be seen as significant to effecting the outcome, then I'd expect the original person to be the one found guilty.

That said, I'm not a lawyer so this is just my opinion, not advice.

@deavmi @jeff @cjd @thatguyoverthere @georgetakei